Thread: "Let the buyer beware"

Originally Posted by Big Shed

If they were only 10 small end mills they would fit in a Flat Rate Envelope for $12.95, the $39 is for the smller of the 2 Flat Rate Boxes. Max weight of the $12,95 is 4 lbs, for the boxes small or large 20 lbs.

Yes there is no way that the end mills would weigh in excess of 4lbs.
Thanks for that info.
So dissapointing when you see something you can afford but the postage is going double or triple the price.

Originally Posted by Retromilling

But John Howard Promised that the GST would not apply to secondhand goods!!!
The GST has already been paid once when it was new.
Ofcourse we are being robbed constantly , repeatedly , incessantly .
How much GST is charged on an article over its whole life being sold and resold numerous times.

If your selling secondhand whatever through private tenure then no need to apply GST.

If your a company then GST is required on everything you sell. This protects the private individual and makes sure that companies and business's are not reporting that most of what hey sell is secondhand and therefore not paying GST on new items they sell.

However, rip off business's are not ment to just add GST on the price of secondhand goods as they will be claiming GST on the purchase of those goods and should take that off so any companies are making an additional 10% profit due to GST fiddles.

You will also find that at auctions even though the goods might not attract GST the audtion fees do.

The big government rippoff is the GST on fuel. Fuel has a duty tax on it already which after the resellers profit also gets an additional GST. We should only be paying fuel GST on the sales price minus the fuel duty!!!

Originally Posted by Retromilling

But John Howard Promised that the GST would not apply to secondhand goods!!!
The GST has already been paid once when it was new.
Of course we are being robbed constantly , repeatedly , incessantly .
How much GST is charged on an article over its whole life being sold and resold numerous times.

This also applies to stamp duty on second hand cars , the stamp duty is paid when the car is sold new , and then every time the car is sold to a new owner.Basically from cradle to grave.
Then to top it all off you pay GST on the total.

I dont believe that GST or stamp duty should be paid on subsequent sales after the first time .It just "legalised" robbery.

Take the tax on so called alcopop drinks , hasn't passed the Senate ,but the prices went up the day after the tax was mentioned in the media.
How can this be legal when the legislation has not been passed ?

Kev

Originally Posted by Woodlee

Take the tax on so called alcopop drinks , hasn't passed the Senate ,but the prices went up the day after the tax was mentioned in the media.
How can this be legal when the legislation has not been passed ?

Kev

The announcement in the budget was that the tax would apply to all sales after the time of the announcement. So the people who would have to pay the tax (liquor suppliers) had to start collecting from then, assuming that legislation would be passed in conformity with the announcement. It is legal because it is not retrospective to a time before people knew of it, it just has a start date earlier than the passage of the legislation.

But the legislation would then have to be retrospective wouldn't it?

No - it just implements the announcement and the courts have said that the vice of retrospectivity is that the citizen could not know that he or she had to comply. If there is a public statement that a change will take effect from the time of the statement, the citizen can alter his/her behaviour accodingly, so it is not relevantly retrospective. The legislation is retroactive to the time of announcement but that is not said to be impermissible.

Thank you, that explains the difference. So what then happens when "retroactive" doesn't become "active". Surely then any money has been "illegally" collected, or does this average citizen see that wrong?

Originally Posted by Retromilling

Yes I agree . It is very demoralising . Truth is I don't buy much from ebay anymore as there is so many shonky sellers and bad descriptions of goods and outrageous postage quotes . I got a quote the other day for $79 US to post 10 small end mills. I said no way a flat rate envelope should only cost $ 35 from USA . They replied with a quote of $ 39 . What they are doing is listing an item cheap and ripping off the extra money on the postage , e bay seems not interested in cleaning it up.

Yes Ebay does need to do a bit more checking on there Sellers. I am a small Seller on Ebay Myself 'stewart2740' . I certainly won't charge anyone an excessive amount of Postage. I charge the amount it costs generally not including even the cost of the ie Postpack. Sometimes I will offer Free Postage. Most Ebay Sellers are good and charge close to what it costs to Post Item/s. I have actually had two Sellers I have Bought off Refund part of a Postage charge, because I was charged to much. I never asked for the Refund it was off their own back.
Recently I was looking at a Geared Head Drill Press on Ebay, the seller is 'bayelic'. I did'nt even Bid when I seen the Freight Cost. For something of a better example of their Ebay Store : a 6000 watt 10.5 HP Petrol Generator - Dimensions 750 x 520 x 607 Weight 88 kg Cost to 3892 $103.69 Distance would be about 515 km (source google earth). Now I just Bought a Cig Transtig 180 amp ac/dc Welder of Ebay. The Welder was located at Gooloogong NSW. The Seller took it to Cowra Freight at Cowra NSW about 39 km's. I Paid the Seller $20.00 to do this - I did'nt mind this at all. From Cowra to Mallacoota - 3892 it is about 547 km's. Now this suprised Me, it ends up the Welder is going from Cowra to Melbourne - distance 682 km. Then from Melbourne to Mallacoota - distance 515 km's. Total Distance Cowra to Melbourne the to Mallacoota is 1197 km's. At a cost of $140.00 plus the $20.00 to the Seller.
How Bayelic works out their Freight Costs I don't know, and they won't allow a third Party Freight Company ( our own choice) to Pick up Items for us. Well I'm on the Cost of My Welder Freight. Just a note I am really enjoying being a member of Woodwork Forums it's great. Everyone helps each other be it for a Problem, Machinery manuals, Ideas, Source of Parts, Plans, Information, etc.