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Thread: Welding railway iron.
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13th August 2010, 10:40 PM #1
Welding railway iron.
Groovers, I am in the process of fabricating a spreaderbar for the tractor. It uses 2 lengths of railway iron with mild steel angle welded on the flat side (used upside down).
What I am finding is I cant get good penetration of the railway iron. Currenly I am using 3.2mm rods at 130amps with general purpose rods.
How can I get better penetration with the railway iron? Damien.I'm a dancing fool! The beat goes on and I'm so wrong!!!!
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13th August 2010, 11:15 PM #2
Use 7016 or 7018 low hydrogen rods.
Railway iron is work hardening maganese alloy.
Don't pre heat in fact keep the heat input down.
Grahame
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14th August 2010, 10:37 AM #3
Grahame, you are a metal god. Thank you. Damien.
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14th August 2010, 12:54 PM #4
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14th August 2010, 10:57 PM #5Senior Member
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probably would be 48 or 49, 16's or 18's in australia 70 is US
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15th August 2010, 08:26 AM #6Don't pre heat in fact keep the heat input down.
Grahame
Basing the question on how hefty a piece a piece of railway track is.www.lockwoodcanvas.com.au
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16th August 2010, 06:14 AM #7Intermediate Member
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From memory, I think manganese is prone to cracking once the piece being welded exceeds 250 degrees C.
We used to weld dragline buckets, the main body was Bisalloy and the bottom section was cast manganese. The Bisalloy had to be kept over 150 degrees C and the manganese had to be kept below 250. We had to keep spraying the manganese section with water occasionally to keep it down.
We also had to wear air fed respirators, as manganese welding gives off very toxic fumes.
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17th August 2010, 07:12 PM #8
The fixer is correct. I doubt that Damien will get 2 metres of rail barely warm.
What I should have said is not to preheat it as many people would be prone to with any piece of steel out of the ordinary.
Also avoid welding the ms bar on to the track surface as it has work hardened due to the thousands of rail way wheel pounding over it.
I would say that's where its most likely for any attached mild steel to break away as it is as hard as a bulls forehead and there fore a hard and brittle grain structure.
Grahame
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17th August 2010, 08:25 PM #9
Thanks for the info. Its not something I intend welding in the immediate future, but you never know when the small bit sitting in the corner finds a new purpose in life.
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I will never be the person who has everything, not when someone keeps inventing so much cool new stuff to buy.
From an early age my father taught me to wear welding gloves . "Its not to protect your hands son, its to put out the fire when u set yourself alight".
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