GIS Yawl

**arbordg** · 28th February 2011, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by callsign222

I think Mik mentioned that maybe the pointing ability would kind of suck using "Handkerchief Reef," and Withum mentioned bringing it down a bit too, if I do another sail I may do that, but I'd want Mik to weigh in first. I think David G out in the PacNW has used it.

It's gotta be really blowing. Maybe I'll experiment tomorrow?

Yes, I've used the "handkerchief reef". I think I may have even named it. I've only used it twice. Once on Timothy Like, when all the other boats (it was a big Coot gathering) - including some big fg keel boats - had bailed out. I had the lake to myself, and probably shouldn't have been out there at all. From my vantage point, the waves looked to be about 5 feet tall. The Coots tell me that they were 3 foot maximum. I did NOT have the 140# of sandbag ballast that day... but should have. Quite clench-inducing, but gave me a good deal of confidence. That a neophyte sailor could go out in those conditions in a GIS was quite impressive to me.

Second time was on the Columbia River. Sailing solo. The wind came up fast and hard. I beached on an island and waited. It didn't die down, and the day was slipping away. Not wanting to get stranded on the island for the night, I reefed down and took off. More than slightly scary, but very exhilirating!

At this point, I'd say that I'm glad I have that row of reef points. I don't plan on using them again unless absolutely forced. I'm not that good a sailor, to be out in those sorts of winds... and this IS an open boat.

**Boatmik** · 1st March 2011, 09:28 PM

Were you able to go upwind? There are real limits to what sort of wind and seas a small boat can claw up against.

But the idea of the reef was to allow for just that sort of contingency. If you don't have the reef, then you don't have the choice.

It is Ok for a boat that will never go far from home or be used for supervised course racing to leave the reef off.

MIK

**arbordg** · 2nd March 2011, 03:42 AM

Mik,

The Columbia adventure was all reaching and running. The Timothy Lake handkerchief loop was all points. It went into the wind quite well, actually. I was setting off to see if I could find Pat - who had taken his PK20 (you remember the baby-blue, Michalak-inspired powerboat?) to the other side of the lake to find some calm water. I went across the lake into the wind, then South, then North, then turned around and screamed back to the campsite. The adrenaline was raging the entire time, but I am not aware of feeling more precarious one one point of sail more than another.

I'm certainly glad I ordered the 2nd row of reef points. I'd certainly recommend them for others. Even if you don't really think you'll need it... you never know, and it's cheap insurance.

**MiddleAgesMan** · 3rd March 2011, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by Boatmik

Were you able to go upwind? There are real limits to what sort of wind and seas a small boat can claw up against.

But the idea of the reef was to allow for just that sort of contingency. If you don't have the reef, then you don't have the choice.

It is Ok for a boat that will never go far from home or be used for supervised course racing to leave the reef off.

MIK

I left the handkerchief reef off my sail but I don't plan to take my Goat out in anything over 10 or so knots. If I'm faced with the unexpected I think the single row of reef points per your drawing (the ones at the bottom) will get me home safely....

Signed--

A chicken.

**arbordg** · 3rd March 2011, 01:18 PM

Originally Posted by MiddleAgesMan

I left the handkerchief reef off my sail but I don't plan to take my Goat out in anything over 10 or so knots. If I'm faced with the unexpected I think the single row of reef points per your drawing (the ones at the bottom) will get me home safely....

Signed--

A chicken.

You mean --

"Signed--

A sane man"

OTOH... it really is good to have that second reef for emergencies.

**CCBB** · 20th March 2011, 02:11 PM

The GIS at the first US boat show. This is from set up day.

Tomorrow is day 3. People love the GIS.

I have not painted the boat yet, which is turning out to be a good thing. People are really looking at the boat and how it all goes together since there is no paint and I may do this in the future.

More to come.

**robhosailor** · 20th March 2011, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by CCBB

Tomorrow is day 3. People love the GIS.

Looks great in this etap. I like it too.

***
(Clint - I've lost your great website-blog

- which url was in your signature) OK! I've just found them! Sorry for inconvenience!!!

**CCBB** · 21st March 2011, 11:18 AM

My blog is

ClintChaseBoatbuilder.blogspot.com

Finished the Show. The Skiff was a hit.

**callsign222** · 21st March 2011, 01:49 PM

'Twas an awesome show, and Clint's idea to have a Goat there was awesome because:

People could relate to it, it was unfinished in construction phase

AND

It's cheap. Look, a brand new 12' Beetle Cat will set you back almost a cool $18,000.

And that was one of the "cheaper" boats.

Don't get me wrong, I love Beetle Cats, but if you want a capable boat that can be drysailed, weighs less than 150 lbs, and built by your amateurish self in your garage over the course of a winter, you can't go wrong with Clint and his basic CNC plywood kit priced at slightly less than a grand. Think about that.

I know I'm preaching to the choir, but it makes perfect sense why the Goat was a hit. Anyway, fun show!

**Boatmik** · 23rd March 2011, 01:35 PM

Originally Posted by CCBB

The GIS at the first US boat show. This is from set up day.

Tomorrow is day 3. People love the GIS.

I have not painted the boat yet, which is turning out to be a good thing. People are really looking at the boat and how it all goes together since there is no paint and I may do this in the future.

More to come.

Wow, fantastic! Thanks so much - look forward to more reports and pics!

MIK

**CCBB** · 23rd March 2011, 10:39 PM

Here is a movie of the Show. It is a nice show, a "gathering of the clans" as the organizer says. He is right, it is a time to see others in the industry, work on collaborations and weight the competition.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1e_NAh28BY&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube - The 2011 Maine Boatbuilders Show[/ame]

**HELLICONIA54** · 24th March 2011, 07:41 PM

thats one of the best answers concerning the mizzen i've read in a long while.I think all boats should have one...lol

**HELLICONIA54** · 24th March 2011, 07:43 PM

a sea anchor is just plain drag.the mizzen has so many other uses.

**HELLICONIA54** · 24th March 2011, 08:08 PM

I'm with you on this one.And following this thread with a lot of interest.

**BobWes** · 26th March 2011, 03:19 PM

Clint and Mik (and everyone else for that matter) -

What happens when the yawl rig is reefed down? Or is there any effect - other than reducing sail area? How does a reefed (smaller) main affect sailing and handling?

Just curious... and contemplating a refit to the yawl rig.

Thanks.

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