Thread: QuickCanoe Building in Hungary - az elsö SecPerc Kenu épitése Magyarországon

That is, without a doubt, the raddest video for the Quick Canoe yet! A perfect showcasing of what the boat is about. A great advertisement.

I love the smile and look of excitement and pride right at the end.

A great job!!!

Congratulations Csaba,

How did the boat feel compared to the Eureka. I think it would be a bit slower because of the simpler hullshape. How was the stability.

Might be interesting to go canoeing at the same time as your Eureka and go on a day trip swapping boats. I would be really interested in the balance of not being blown around by the wind but still have the ability to make turns.

Be really interesting to get some data on the comparison. The easy build of the Quick Canoe Vs the more sophisticated shape of the Eureka.

MIK

Great effort!

For a moment there I thought he was going to do a head stand on the seat or a hand stand on the gunwales!

Anyone game to get that pic or video?!

Ian

Thank you guys. It was a great fun to paddle in Quick Canoe. It is a very stable and comfortable boat.

One person in the boat: I was jumping around in the boat to test its behavior and it paddles well even if I am sitting at the very end (small deck) - next time I will try hand-stand, right?. You can catch some stability testing at 2:12, I even tried to stand up - it was no problem. When I sit at the back it is very easy to maneuver because the front fin is out of the water (but in case of some wind it is a problem). When I knee in the middle of the boat it is still easy to move but it is difficult to turn quickly. I would not win a slalom competition but it is still quite OK.

Two persons: it is very stable and easily maneuverable. The paddlers can slide to the side of the seats to reach the water better. The boat doesn't mind that. It turns well, but sharp turns require the cooperation of the two paddlers (meaning for example when there is a sharp turn left the front paddler needs to paddle backwards, and the rear paddler forward). This is an excellent touring canoe - for lakes or rivers, longer distance, also great for fishing because of the stability. I think it will accommodate a small drop-in sailing rig very well - I will try that as well soon.

Comparing to Eureka QC is definitely more stable, and less maneuverable. It looks almost as good as Eureka. See photos.
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It seem the Quick Canoe is quite popular in my little country. Boatbuilders are keen to know if the plans of QC will be available with bigger size - for three of four persons. One suggested to another boatbuilder that the dimensions should be grown proportionally (e.g.: 1:1,5) but I think that the shape of the panels would need to change as well in order to accommodate four crew-members. What do you think? Thank you. Csaba

I think it would be easier to build two canoes, than it would be to build one big one. Transporting a large canoe could be a factor as well. You might have to have a dedicated trailer, where you could put two canoes on the roof of a car with wider roof racks.

Rick.

Howdy Csaba,

The maximum beam (width) of normal paddling canoes is about 36 inches (914mm). Going wider makes the boat hard to paddle and there may be other problems too which I am not aware of.

At the moment the QC beam is 800mm, so it would be possible to scale up by 1.14 to give an overall length of 4700 x 1.14 = 5358mm (17.5ft). This will increase the weight carrying capacity of the boat by almost 50%.

I would probably recommend reducing the sheerheight (move the sheerline down

But on the down side this will be a really big floaty boat. It will may be difficult to control by a single paddler if there is much wind.

What you need is a traditional Hungarian river Punt!

Best wishes
Michael

Howdy,
Thanks for the answers. Yes, the Hungarian Punt is definitely on the to-do list .

As a matter of fact the four-person indian glass-canoes are very popular here, and they are about five meters long and weight around 30-40 kgs, so suitable for roofrack (see photos).

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The Quick Canoe increased in size (multiplied by 1.14) as discussed above will carry an extra person as the displacement is increased by 50%.

On top of that basic canoe has more capacity than two people, so I would expect the enlarged one to carry three or four. But just like the fibreglass ones I would expect it to be a poor paddler with just one person.

Also there is an ergonomic question - look how narrow teh rear seat is in the glass boat.

There might be a problem with leg room with the QC, but might not be too bad.

But it would be a limited use boat.

MIK

Would it work to just increase the longitudinal dimensions (space offsets at say 35mm rather than 300mm, so LOA is 18ft) without changing beam or freeboard? I can imagine the panel shapes might nor scale exactly and that could screw up the shape of a boat such as the Eureka, but I'd guess the Quick Canoe would be OK, especially if done with chinelogs so the panels find their own fair lines along that seam.

Have three kids to fit in so might need a little more than 15.5 feet in a canoe.

Ian

Howdy,

That approach doesn't work with stitch and glue boats. Any distance you mark out well be a combination of length, height and width when the boat is folded up. The only way to be sure all the panels will all fit together is to do a complete scale up.

With the Quick Canoe it would be less of a mess than some because the panels are not hugely twisted through their lengths, but doing it with a Eureka would be a total mess because of the big twist of the bilge panel.