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27th April 2010, 02:45 AM #1
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Constructing a Japanese wood training tool
Dear all
My name is Federico and I'm an Italian living in Argentina. I presented my self in this thread: https://www.woodworkforums.com/f175/p...5/#post1144967
I decided to help my karate instructor to build a wooden training tool called makiwara.
By roroarro at 2010-04-26
Basically the makiwara is a wooden post. One end is fixed in the floor, and the other end can move freely. Punching the upper end, the wood will flex. Stronger you hit it, stronger it will "resist" and push back.
I'll post a Wikipedia link where you can find some more information about it.
Makiwara - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (At the bottom there are links that redirect to sites that explain how to build it)
I investigated quite a lot about the right woods and measures.
There are a lot of sites suggesting different ways to build it. But really it's difficult to have an exact idea because the resistance of the makiwara will depend on the kind of wood you'll choose and the thickness/length of the post. Additionally and expert karateka will push it much more than a beginner. Generally it is better to have a too flexible makiwara than a too stiff one.
The result of my research is that the most suggested woods are "white oak" o "cedar". Eventually cherry, ash and maple could be used as well.
For the post, it could be used a 1'' x 4'' x 5 feet board or you can start with a 4'' x 3'' board and plane it diagonally such that the striking area is only about 1/2" thick. Please check the image at the beginning of this discussion to see this kind of "irregular board"
Unfortunately here in Argentina it's vary difficult to find white oak. When, in the woodshop, I asked for "roble" (oak), they offered me "cerejeira" (Cerejeira - Wikipédia, a enciclopédia livre) so I bought a 4" x 1" x 4 feet board (I decided for a constant thickness board for a matter of cost - the 4" x 3" would have cost me 3 times more)
Than I discovered that the English wiki translate it as "Cherry" Cherry - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia. Somewhere else I found it as: ROBLE CEREJEIRA - CEREJEIRA OAK or Brazilian oak. And now I'm quite confused.
I wonder if that board will work well for me or if it will be too flexible or even brake.
For the doubt... I made this design:
By roroarro at 2010-04-26
As you see, I'm considering the possibility to add some 1/2" tables at the back of the main table, so that it would be possible to regulate the resistance of the makiwara, changing the length of these little tables (you can use up to three additional)
These tables wouldn't be glued, just fixed with the metal brackets at the base. I decided to add several ½” tables instead of a 1" unique "back up" shorter board because I don’t want to stress the main table in only one point.
What do you think about it?
Could it work or it will miserably brake after few punches. Should I use an hard wood instead and forgive the "back up boards"?
Thanks for your attention! ciao!
Federico
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27th April 2010, 01:05 PM #2
Hi Federico,
There are many woods you can use. Try a look at some archery bow making sites and see some timbers they use. It is the same principal. A tapered board will flex so it is just taking more wood off with a plane until it bends the amount you want.
If you can list the woods you can get there (english names) I will have a go at pointing out the good ones for your task.
Regards
John
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27th April 2010, 11:25 PM #3
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orraloon, thank you vary much!!!
Archery bow making sites... this is a brillian idea!!! I'll search for local archery club site to check out some info!
Bye
Federico
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14th June 2010, 12:10 PM #4
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Makiwara images
Dear all,
As promised, I’ll show some images of the finished makiwara.
I finally decided to use a "cerejeira" wood board - 4"x1"x 150 cm that do the job perfectly... it is flexible but resist to the punches.
I used some 1/2" pine board with different length to support the main board at the base.
I quite like the result.
We installed it in our "dojo" and everybody is enthusiast of the behavior of the makiwara.
I would add another couple of "back up pine boards" because I feel it quite to flexible. Fist centimeters are really “easy” and I'd like it sturdier. But there is time for it.
Bye bye
Federico
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14th June 2010, 12:49 PM #5
Well done,
Reality is no background music.
Cheers John
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14th June 2010, 01:36 PM #6
Nice project Federico certainly different
Most Aussies just thump posts usually hardwood ones, often outside of Pubs when they are well under the influence of grog.
Is the wood soft or hard and the white cover is it leather?
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14th June 2010, 07:35 PM #7
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Well done Federico!! I hope the master was pleased>
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14th June 2010, 07:38 PM #8
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[QUOTE=wheelinround;1165920]
Most Aussies just thump posts usually hardwood ones, often outside of Pubs when they are well under the influence of grog.QUOTE]
BS Wheelin! I"m one of most Aussies and I have nevr done that sort of thing.
Have been known to get gregariously inebriated though.
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14th June 2010, 11:05 PM #9
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Haha... that sounds hardcore...
I found a text en English about "Cerejeira"
Cereijeira: the fragrant hardwood. - Free Online Library
"Cerejeira is a light wood, weighing approximately 35 to 37 pounds per cubic foot, with ranges from 34 to 42 pounds. It is considered to be moderately hard"
For the cover I used a synthetic leather
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14th June 2010, 11:06 PM #10
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16th June 2010, 08:23 PM #11
Cool.
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