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  1. #1
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    Default Outdoor table advice

    Hi all.

    Between home renos and our 4 month old baby, I am trying to build an outdoor table. I was hoping someone can give me advice on the type of joins I need. I have attached a picture of the top only.

    Note that I am pretty much a woodworking beginner but have managed to get a decent collection of tools and 2nd hand machinery including: benchtop jointer, 12" thicknesser, Triton w/c, bandsaw, scms, router, etc. No biscuit joiner or drill press.

    The top is 1500 x 1000 and is to be made from reclaimed hardwood (thanks to trusty bandsaw, jointer and thicknesser). I have read about movement of timber, especially with regards to table tops, but am not sure how much of a concern this well be with slats on the top?

    For the outer frame and centre piece of the top I was planning on using M&T joints. Note these pieces will be 90x30.

    The slats I am not sure about. On many of the tables I see at the outdoor furniture shops, I notice that they run a groove along the inside of the outer frame of the table top. The slats appear to have a half tenon which sits within this groove. Would this be correct? (The slat dimensions were to be 65x10 but now I am thinking that 10mm is too thin? I was going to brace them halfway along but should I make them thicker? I have plenty of timber.)

    As the groove is continuous, I am guessing they glue each slat into the outer frame and then fix it with a screw?

    Also wondering about the order of steps I need to take to join and glue the top. I was thinking:
    1. Join the three width components of the frame to one long edge.
    2. Slide all slats in.
    3. Join other long edge.

    Not sure if this makes sense and I am sure I'm not using the right terminology.

    Am I biting off more than I can chew?

    Any suggestions would be much appreciated.

    John

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    I would be concerned about glued joints in an outdoor setting but some of the commercially sold tables are that design so you may be all right. Depends how outdoor the situation. In the full blast of sun wind and rain no table will look good for long. On a veranda then things are a bit more gentle.
    10mm is a bit light for the slats and wont leave you enough material to cut tennons on the ends. I would use an epoxy glue as I do not fully believe the claims of some of the water resistant glues. No one will notice screws on the underside and they will be extra insurence for the joints. Galvanised or stainless for the outdoor environment.
    It is doable
    Regards
    John

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    I should have explained that it will live exclusively on a shady deck and it would take a pretty decent storm for it to get wet.I agree that the 10mm slats are too light. I am trying to balance my lack of skill level with the strength of the top with the weight of the whole thing. Any suggestions for an appropriate size?

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