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Thread: dial fault
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26th June 2011, 11:08 AM #1Mechanical Butcher
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dial fault
I have a problem with the Hercus lathe handwheel dials drifting off, when the wheel is turned backwards. This is annoying, when I need to back off and advance again. It can behave OK when going forward, but backwards its face rubs the stationary part in such a way that, unless locked with its grubscrew, it can move off its initial position. It's a nuisance to always have to lock the grubscrew.
I think there is scope to improve this, by isolating the dial so it doesn't rub on its faces, and so stays where it's put, even when backing off. I made some changes on my 9" which achieve this, but it's a bit of a kludge and I wondered if there's a neater solution.
I wonder if fitting frictionless thrust bearings, such as is a popular modification by our US friends with their South Bends, would stop it drifting?
Jordan
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26th June 2011, 11:59 AM #2GOLD MEMBER
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how about just a little knurled locking bolt. for the ring. is the ring catching on a bur?
and well lubed
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26th June 2011, 03:44 PM #3Mechanical Butcher
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A knurled screw is an option, thanks.
There's no burr or anything - just the friction of steel flat surfaces rubbing each other is enough to upset the adjustment. Oil could help I suppose.
Has nobody else experienced this?
Jordan
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26th June 2011, 04:48 PM #4SENIOR MEMBER
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I always lock my collars before relying on any measurement from them. I just made up some little knurled knobs in brass, but an alternative in steel with a brass shoe on the bottom would possibly be better. I just happened to have some brass handy and quite like the look, they only take a few minutes each.
Pete
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26th June 2011, 09:53 PM #5Senior Member
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Make sure the set screw has a brass pad between itself and the shaft, they are easilly lost if the dial is removed. The pad is approx 1.5mm thick and provides a more controlled friction between the set screw and the shaft. The dial is less likely to slip with the pad in place.
Chas.
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26th June 2011, 11:06 PM #6.
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26th June 2011, 11:26 PM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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Yes I was expecting you to accuse me of a staged photo Bob, where I polished up the lathe first. But no, just raced down, took the shots and raced back, you can actually see a pile of swarf on the saddle in the second photo albeit out of focus.
No, I think the brass will stay, I'm not going to spend another 30 minutes making 5 more for these machines, besides some of us get our hands greasy Bob and need all the knurl we can get
Pete
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27th June 2011, 09:25 AM #8Mechanical Butcher
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27th June 2011, 09:45 AM #9SENIOR MEMBER
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I have a Hercus mill as well and it has the same collar arrangement.
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27th June 2011, 10:10 AM #10.
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To maintain the spick and span myth, I should have cleaned these little blighters up before they had their photo taken.
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27th June 2011, 10:44 AM #11
Nice idea and execution Bob and Pete,
What is the thread on these screws?cheers
David
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27th June 2011, 11:51 AM #12.
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Plain old 3/16" BSW on the little ones and a 1/4" BSW on the big one.
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27th June 2011, 12:00 PM #13
Yippee,
3/16 BSW is something I have! (I had feared a BA thread)
Thank you
Davidcheers
David
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