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    I have a problem with the Hercus lathe handwheel dials drifting off, when the wheel is turned backwards. This is annoying, when I need to back off and advance again. It can behave OK when going forward, but backwards its face rubs the stationary part in such a way that, unless locked with its grubscrew, it can move off its initial position. It's a nuisance to always have to lock the grubscrew.
    I think there is scope to improve this, by isolating the dial so it doesn't rub on its faces, and so stays where it's put, even when backing off. I made some changes on my 9" which achieve this, but it's a bit of a kludge and I wondered if there's a neater solution.
    I wonder if fitting frictionless thrust bearings, such as is a popular modification by our US friends with their South Bends, would stop it drifting?

    Jordan

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    how about just a little knurled locking bolt. for the ring. is the ring catching on a bur?
    and well lubed

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    A knurled screw is an option, thanks.
    There's no burr or anything - just the friction of steel flat surfaces rubbing each other is enough to upset the adjustment. Oil could help I suppose.
    Has nobody else experienced this?

    Jordan

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    I always lock my collars before relying on any measurement from them. I just made up some little knurled knobs in brass, but an alternative in steel with a brass shoe on the bottom would possibly be better. I just happened to have some brass handy and quite like the look, they only take a few minutes each.

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    Make sure the set screw has a brass pad between itself and the shaft, they are easilly lost if the dial is removed. The pad is approx 1.5mm thick and provides a more controlled friction between the set screw and the shaft. The dial is less likely to slip with the pad in place.

    Chas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete F View Post
    I always lock my collars before relying on any measurement from them. I just made up some little knurled knobs in brass, but an alternative in steel with a brass shoe on the bottom would possibly be better. I just happened to have some brass handy and quite like the look, they only take a few minutes each.

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    When you make proper ones out of steel, I'll lend you my fine knurls. I suppose brass festoons the mill as well. And another thing Pete, nice paintwork.

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    Yes I was expecting you to accuse me of a staged photo Bob, where I polished up the lathe first. But no, just raced down, took the shots and raced back, you can actually see a pile of swarf on the saddle in the second photo albeit out of focus.

    No, I think the brass will stay, I'm not going to spend another 30 minutes making 5 more for these machines, besides some of us get our hands greasy Bob and need all the knurl we can get

    Pete

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete F View Post
    No, I think the brass will stay, I'm not going to spend another 30 minutes making 5 more for these machines, besides some of us get our hands greasy Bob and need all the knurl we can get

    Pete
    That's a splendid defence of your nice yellow screws, Pete.
    Where to you put 5 of them?

    Jordan

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    I have a Hercus mill as well and it has the same collar arrangement.

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    To maintain the spick and span myth, I should have cleaned these little blighters up before they had their photo taken.

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    Nice idea and execution Bob and Pete,

    What is the thread on these screws?
    cheers
    David

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    Plain old 3/16" BSW on the little ones and a 1/4" BSW on the big one.

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    Yippee,

    3/16 BSW is something I have! (I had feared a BA thread)

    Thank you

    David
    cheers
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