Thread: Another Box

Hi Dave,

That is one awesome box!!!

Can you describe how you made the box itself please?

Keep posting your work .... it is wonderful.

Interwood

love the box

Hi Interwood

Thanks for the comment, but seriously this is one simple box to make. If you look at it, you will see two flat double heart shapes, one for the bottom and another bigger one for the top. The inside is just a laminated piece of wood, cut into shape so that it forms a double heart shaped "ring" and the top has another heartshaped thin ring to make the overhang on the lid.

The lining was made by cutting out cardboard after photocopying the top so that we had the shape. The felt was then glued to the cardboard 'template' and stuck to the base.

The flower is a two piece affair, the petals are compound cut and glued together, the leaves were joined together with a round base to which the flower was attached.

The letter was just taken from 'Word' and enlarged til it looked the right size. It's Old English font. Then it was cut out and glued to a piece of redgum and scroll sawn out.

Next time, Lili might try using gold leaf, instead of gold paint. But this is still experimental. The original design was completely plain, and we thought it needed a little something to give it a lift.

Hope this helps to explain the process.

Cheers
Dave

Dave, you really took that pattern and ran with it! Looks awesome!

By the way.. once you worked your way through all the patterns in that book.... did you know there is another one for scroll saw boxes out there? lol It has totally different designs yet again...

Juvy

Wonderful workmanship Dave!

That is a very high standard to gain in such a short time.

Hi Juvvy

Dave's hard at work earning our keep, and I'm "surfing the forum"as usual. Thank you for your kind praise. It means a great deal to Dave. He has only been scrolling since May, when I bought the Hegner in hopes that I could find him something that will bring him pleasure in his spare time. I believe he has progressed enormously in that time, especially considering his work takes him away from home for weeks on end.

He has no formal woodworking training, having been a mechanic by trade. But I think this helps enormously with any machines, to which he takes like a 'duck to water'. It also helps to be able to 'break down' objects into their component parts, which is very much a mechanic's skill and he can look at things and immediately 'see' how they are constructed.

Since I've involved us in this forum, our lives are more balanced, and work doesn't seem to take over such a big part of our thoughts. David has now got a hobby that he is truly keen on, and loves the interaction with people on the forum. Now all I've got to do is build up the 'boys toys' collection, and sit back and wait for those golden retirement years. The big ticket item this year was a thicknesser, and that has made a big difference. I still need to get a band saw, and then I think he's pretty right for basic needs. I have ordered a Proxxon (German) micro lathe, and that should be fun, if Cobb and Co ever manages to deliver it to Deni. It's been on the road since last Friday, and I think it's going via Darwin!!!

When I bought the saw, I also bought a selection of books of patterns, thinking that it would be important for him to have challenges to be met, as he improved. He has taken to box making, and loves models, but he also has a lovely book called 'Box Making Projects' as well as wood puzzles, silhouettes and portraits, animal puzzles, and 3D objects. So there's going to be plenty to keep him amused and growing as a scroller. (You wouldn't guess, would you that I'm an old chalkie, and still think in terms of the learning process!!0

Cheers
LiliB

Oh we all always learn one thing or another..... I'm still trying to figure out Aussie speak..... am assuming "old chalkie"... your'e a teacher? lol
See I was born and raised in Germany.... I was a kindergarten teacher at one time.
Think that's why I approach woodworking the way I do... simply.. easy... learn as you go... try something totally different from what the books tell you to. It's fun that way.

I do try to listen and look at how everyone else does something, then I go and see what works for me.. usually something that's not the "right" way! lol

I envy all the engineers and mechanics.... they have the know how to change things and figure out in their heads what will and what won't work..

I'm trying to remember the name of the other book.... see... "Santa" bought it for me and it's wrapped under the tree! lol So I better not peek... ask me after x-mas

When it comes to other woodworking machines we rely a lot on our local club.... Albury/Wodonga Woodcrafters... what we can't afford we can usually find down there... together with a lot of know how.

Juvy

Hi Juvy
We'd love to be somewhere with a club and clubhouse, but unfortunately Deni doesn't have one anymore. I generally prefer to have the basic equipment needed for a hobby, because of the convenience, and I'm almost there with what we will need.

You were spot on about my having been a teacher, and because I'm not a Gen Y person, I'm still finding internet speak hard to get. What is lol? I've racked my brain, and I just can't come up with a logical term.Worst of all I was an English teacher, and am still highly conscious of grammar and spelling, so that makes it even harder to accustom myself to.

We've just got our Proxxon micro lathe, German made, and so cute. It's got a tiny 25cm bed and the cutest little chucks. It's just like a grown up machine, and sings like a 'swiss sewing machine'. It'll be interesting to see how it will help with making things for scrollsawing exercises, like toy furniture, vehicle models and many more things.

Proxxon make some fascinating stuff, fairly expensive, but beautifully engineered, like most German made equipment. So I have a natural respect for German machines, and prefer them when I can afford them. Hence my comments earlier on cheaper scroll saws. I guess I'm a little prejudiced.

Cheers
Lili

Oh no..... english teacher? I have to remember to use spell check.... which doesn't help my grammar tho lol English is a hard language to learn. So many different ways to pronounce words that look like they should be said the same way... no rhyme or reason to it sometimes. ( well at least not for me! lol) Ah... here is that "lol" again.... very simple.. means "laughing out loud"
I started out my computer experience when my Dad bought one for my college going son who then decided to go to a local college first... so every day the computer waved at me until I gave in... first because I loved the idea that I could actually find a german forum ..... which I did... it was great... but it soon got out of control and I spend way too much time on here.

Now with the woodworking I spend much less time here and have rejoined the real world

Had to laugh at your description of the "cute" little Proxxon lathe. My husband is the worst when it comes to buying some tool because it's "cute" .... anything mini and he instantly falls for it! we have 4 dremels!!!!! Don't use them much, but we have them... I even use the Dremel golf shoe cleaner ( really cute as it's see through!!!!!! ) .... Ken equiped it with a chuck and I take it with me to drill the holes in what I'm working on... the ones I forgot to drill at home.... seems there's always at least one...

Juvy

Now come on Juvy English is half German anyway the other half is French then there is the Celtic half

I know this is a bit long.... but it says it better then I ever could

English is tough stuff

Dearest creature in creation,
Study English pronunciation.
I will teach you in my verse
Sounds like corpse, corps, horse, and worse.
I will keep you, Suzy, busy,
Make your head with heat grow dizzy.
Tear in eye, your dress will tear.
So shall I! Oh hear my prayer.
Just compare heart, beard, and heard,
Dies and diet, lord and word,
Sword and sward, retain and Britain</ST1.
(Mind the latter, how it's written.)
Now I surely will not plague you
With such words as plaque and ague.
But be careful how you speak:
Say break and steak, but bleak and streak;
Cloven, oven, how and low,
Script, receipt, show, poem, and toe.
Hear me say, devoid of trickery,
Daughter, laughter, and Terpsichore,
Typhoid, measles, topsails, aisles,
Exiles, similes, and reviles;
Scholar, vicar, and cigar,
Solar, mica, war and far;
One, anemone, Balmoral,
Kitchen, lichen, laundry, laurel;
Gertrude, German, wind and mind,
Scene, Melpomene, mankind.
Billet does not rhyme with ballet,
Bouquet, wallet, mallet, chalet.
Blood and flood are not like food,
Nor is mould like should and would.
Viscous, viscount, load and broad,
Toward, to forward, to reward.
And your pronunciation's OK
When you correctly say croquet,
Rounded, wounded, grieve and sieve,
Friend and fiend, alive and live.
Ivy, privy, famous; clamour
And enamour rhyme with hammer.
River, rival, tomb, bomb, comb,
Doll and roll and some and home.
Stranger does not rhyme with anger,
Neither does devour with clangour.
Souls but foul, haunt but aunt,
Font, front, wont, want, grand, and grant,
Shoes, goes, does. Now first say finger,
And then singer, ginger, linger,
Real, zeal, mauve, gauze, gouge and gauge,
Marriage, foliage, mirage, and age.
Query does not rhyme with very,
Nor does fury sound like bury.
Dost, lost, post and doth, cloth, loth.
Job, nob, bosom, transom, oath.
Though the differences seem little,
We say actual but victual.
Refer does not rhyme with deafer.
Foeffer does, and zephyr, heifer.
Mint, pint, senate and sedate;
Dull, bull, and George ate late.
Scenic, Arabic, Pacific,
Science, conscience, scientific.
<ST1Liberty</ST1ity</ST1, library, heave and heaven,
Rachel, ache, moustache, eleven.
We say hallowed, but allowed,
People, leopard, towed, but vowed.
Mark the differences, moreover,
Between mover, cover, clover;
Leeches, breeches, wise, precise,
Chalice, but police and lice;
Camel, constable, unstable,
Principle, disciple, label.
Petal, panel, and canal,
Wait, surprise, plait, promise, pal.
Worm and storm, chaise, chaos, chair,
Senator, spectator, mayor.
Tour, but our and succour, four.
Gas, alas, and <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com</st1:State><ST1Arkansas</ST1.
Sea, idea, <ST1<st1:country-region w:st="on">Korea</st1:country-region></ST1, area,
Psalm, Maria, but malaria.
Youth, south, southern, cleanse and clean.
Doctrine, turpentine, marine.
Compare alien with Italian,
Dandelion and battalion.
Sally with ally, yea, ye,
Eye, I, ay, aye, whey, and key.
Say aver, but ever, fever,
Neither, leisure, skein, deceiver.
Heron, granary, canary.
Crevice and device and aerie.
Face, but preface, not efface.
Phlegm, phlegmatic, ass, glass, bass.
Large, but target, gin, give, verging,
Ought, out, joust and scour, scourging.
Ear, but earn and wear and tear
Do not rhyme with here but ere.
Seven is right, but so is even,
Hyphen, roughen, nephew Stephen,
Monkey, donkey, Turk and jerk,
Ask, grasp, wasp, and cork and work.
Pronunciation -- think of Psyche!
Is a paling stout and spikey?
Won't it make you lose your wits,
Writing groats and saying grits?
It's a dark abyss or tunnel:
Strewn with stones, stowed, solace, gunwale,
Islington and Isle of Wight,
Housewife, verdict and indict.
Finally, which rhymes with enough --
Though, through, plough, or dough, or cough?
Hiccough has the sound of cup.
My advice is to give up!!!
<O</O

The box is really outstanding. I have the book that the pattern comes from and have bypassed it in favour of other projects. What Dave has brought out is quality workmanship over quantity.

I also know how hard it is to scroll Red Gum and a lot of other Australian natives such as Iron Bark.

Dave has also brought out a bit of personal aplication with the decoration. It shows what a bit of imagination can do.

During my meeting with people doing wood work for a hobby I am amazed at how many mechanic, fitter and turner type people have left metal for wood. This must be saying something but at this stage I don"t know what.

Keep up the good work it is an inspiration.

By the way I'm hesident to reply to an English Teacher being such a poor speller and I can't make the spell check work

Red Gum

Hi Redgum

Gee I really stepped into that, didn't I. Well, we all have our crosses to bear, mine's English and yours is probably living Orange. You've got to be tough to survive that climate in winter. I'm surprised you didn't call yourself 'Frosty'!!!

The decoration on the box was my idea. I challenged Dave to see if he could make a miniature dog rose from another box in the book. The leaves didn't work, so I drew out a four pronged set with a centre circle and Dave scrolled it. It made the assembly of the flower more secure. The whole flower arrangement on our box is the same size as the dogwood rose is on the 'dogwood box', so the result is quite clever.

I also toyed with using a simple scrolling pattern like that on the Teardrop Box, but much finer, and less brash. When he does his next go at this one, I'll get him to try out the idea and post it.

I thought adding the letter would personalise the box a little more and give it some sentimental value. I wasn't happy with the choices of font, and would still like to experiment with this side of things. Guess next time I'll get a calligraphy book, a pencil and a ruler, and draw my own.


Cheers
Lili

No need to draw your own letters,
there are so many fonts already on all our computers and millions more to be had for free on line.
Once you find one you like there's nothing to it to change it for scrolling. Just open any letter in your photo/paint program and have a go...

I find that a lot of the calligraphy fonts are really suited well for cutting letters out.
If you need any help just ask..... there are lots of people here who can help.

Juvy