Thread: Pleated dust canisters

You just know you are going to start a cyclone vs single stage extractor don't you
People will rabidly take both sides.
Personally I believe if you make or buy a highly efficient cyclone, and if you modify your machinery and tools to collect all the dust at the source and your dust extractor is inside, then the cyclone is the best option.

I bought a powermatic 3hp single stage dusty with 2 massive pleated filters rated at 98% filtering at 1 micron because I did not want the cost and/or time overhead of metal ducting to outside and/or cyclone build and/or building and powering an outdoor shelter. Am I happy? Yep. I still have dust being released at its source, the table saw so until that is resolved a cyclone is pointless. If I can ever solve that problem then all I have to do is build a cabinet for the dusty and vent it through the roof (I have some leftover aircon alum ducting 300mm diameter or so) and any last bit of dust getting through the dusty will go straight up and out. Can't see why that isn't as good as the cyclone option.

Cheers
Michael

Hi Michael, I think I agree with you based on one piece of knowledge not written in this thread.

That being, if its inside the cyclone could be a better option because emptying the main bin is not going to potentially let all the fine dust start coming out at the same time. This is for a cyclone using a canister indoors..

So the other option for me is to finish the business part of my cyclone and just keep it inline with the tools and the dusty... I know, not as efficient but for me a really easy step from where I am...

So, if you have two devices - a cyclone using a pleated filter indoors and a single stage using a pleated filter also indoors,
Is it true that both will do the same job as capturing the fine dust, after all both have the same pleated filter..

The above question is based on health purposes only, not ease of emptying bins etc.. And is what I suggested above valid as well.. The only health downside to the single is at some stage you need to empty the bin that also has the fine dust?

Thanks,
Jason

Bah, don't read Bill Pentz's website if you are trying to find ways to NOT have a cyclone

With my young kid having already shown signs of asthma and rereading I would feel bad if I didnt go down the cyclone route and pump the air outside...

I have tried to get out of this project so many times and it just keeps coming back!

Hmm, finish current telescope project, then finish cyclone

Originally Posted by metalnwood

Bah, don't read Bill Pentz's website if you are trying to find ways to NOT have a cyclone

With my young kid having already shown signs of asthma and rereading I would feel bad if I didnt go down the cyclone route and pump the air outside...

I have tried to get out of this project so many times and it just keeps coming back!

Hmm, finish current telescope project, then finish cyclone

I try never to have an opinion that is generated in a vacuum (pun unintended). I've read Bill Pentz's site and thought that I would have to make a cyclone. If small dust is as bad as Bill says it is and I believe it is, it wouldn't be good to have an excellent cyclone and neglect the source of the dust. Perhaps I don't understand afterall, but apart from what you're saying about dispensing the waste safely, if you have a goodly powerful single stage outside or inside with venting outside, I can't understand why it can't be as safe.

Cheers
Michael

I guess the key is to have the whole thing outside for a single stage.. If its inside and you only want the dust to go out then I guess all of a sudden its two stage because you need a separator?

Agreed that perhaps the hardest piece of the puzzle is to catch at the source.. How that is done consistently is beyond me... How many times do I have to remove the hood on the tablesaw to do something... I never use sleds but they seem to really negate the use of a good hood as well.

It may just be easier to resign oneself to the fact that you cant stop all dust and hopefully you wont die from it!