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18th February 2011, 11:27 AM #1New Member
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Advice on making a bench please.
G‘Day.
This is my first post. Thank you for having me.
Up until now I have been a metal basher, building such things as a trailer for my BMWGS and an RV7 all aluminium aircraft.
I have seen the light. Next is a wooden boat.
So some advice please.
My metal work benches are too light for wood work, so I am in the process of building a 200kg bench.
I have nearly completed the super structure from old 5” x 3" and 8” x 2” red gum, which I have run through my gorgeous new thicknesser.
Now for some advice on the benchtop please.
So far the options are.
Cypress 90 x 90. cost $120. Pretty, but will it warp and twist?
QLD Ironbark 200 x 75 cost $120. Heeavy and solid, but will it warp?
Merbau 90 x90 Cost $300. Beautiful. DAR. Smoother than my billiard table.
So, please, give me the benefit of your experience.
Pete.
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18th February 2011, 12:01 PM #2
Pics?
Cypress can be very knarly, doesn't suit me but is probably appropriate. Personally I would go for something more durable.
Ironbark will be extremely durable but being so hard and somewhat brittle it's quite prone to splitting with seasonal movement. You would need to have a pretty significant structure to keep it straight and expect it to move a far amount.
Merbau will be hard enough and durable, but will also suffer seasonal movement. This would be my pick if these were the only choices.
No matter which you choose you will need to account for seasonal changes. In bench building this is the biggest challenge. Any hardwood that is seasoned for a long time will work quite well, think recycled framing timber or similar. Depending on the age of the Ironbark this might be an ideal option.
Oh, and welcome! I gave up working on cars to take up woodworking, I've never looked back."Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so."
- Douglas Adams
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18th February 2011, 12:30 PM #3New Member
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Pics coming.
Thanks Kman-Oz.
Pics coming when it's more together.
Pete.
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19th February 2011, 01:20 PM #4
I would go the ironbark too if it is seasoned. Only concern is at 200 wide there is more chance of warping than at 90 wide. You could rip them down into 90ish before doing the glue up. On glue up reverse the grain direction to alternate boards.
(((( ))))((( ))))(((())))(((( as seen on the board ends. This will reduce the trend to warp as the forces are made to work against each other.
Regards
John
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20th February 2011, 01:21 PM #5New Member
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Ironbark bench top
John,
Thanks for that good advice.
The ironbark is not seasoned. Just sitting at the local garden supply joint, recently cut, so not good for the bench top. I might buy some and stack it for to season for future use.
I now think I should lash out and buy the Merbau, as in the total costs of the bench with vises and hold downs etc., the merbau would not a significant difference.
Also, as I plan to use it for boat building not cabinet making, absolute flatness is not such an issue, as nearly all the fitting is done ON the boat, not the bench. And I can plane it back from time to time.
One other question.
Would it be wise to dowell the 4" x 4" merbau right through with 1" dowell.
Thanks,
pete.
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28th February 2011, 04:38 PM #6New Member
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Only 200kg???
if you REALLY want a bench top that you can wail on all day, why dont you get a 300 year old red gum slab. (or similar) Would not cost too much extra.
I have a jarrah slab 300 x 77. LOVE it. it hasnt warped/moved ever.
and some day someone will be horrified that anyone could use such a slab for a workbench and turn it into half a dozen coffee tables. but i will will have had a beaut workbench all my life.
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28th February 2011, 06:40 PM #7Senior Member
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Don't mean to be pedantic....but do you mean whale....if you were to cry over the bench all day, would be time to hit the grog.
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28th February 2011, 06:49 PM #8New Member
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wail
nope
Wail.
1. Verb. To hit or punch repeatedly.
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28th February 2011, 07:08 PM #9
Go the Ironbark and dress it down if it moves. My first was from unseasoned cypress, 30 years later its still OK. I did clean it up after about 10 years.
Michael
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