Thread: eBay (and other auctions) Metalwork Stuff

Originally Posted by RayG

Here's something that might be a bargain for someone... This was in the CMI Foundry Auction last week with a reserve price of $1000, and attracted no interest, as far
as I know it's still sitting there, we had a quick look in passing this afternoon (while looking at another machine... maybe more on that later ).

was that the same auction that had the Hercus 9B cylindrical grinder.... Had never heard of a 9B before, looked like a stretched 9A... It had no bids as well...

Originally Posted by .RC.

bare bones grinder..... been rebuilt as well probably, going by the Marand tag on it

Cincinatti Cutter Grinder 2 | eBay

Peoples' stupidity and greed WRT Ebay never fails to astound me. That grinder was sitting there for days with a BIN of $375. Now some clown, in the hopes of saving themselves a lousy $75, has put in a minimum bid and someone else has also bid, looking at the bid count.

Now if I'd actually wanted the thing, I'd have hit the BIN button as soon as I'd satisfied myself WRT freight, condition etc and known I'd had it at a good price. But no, the 'bright spark' has now started a potential bidding war in the hope of saving peanuts. The tooling needed to make that machine useful is easily going to push the cost to $1500 or more. There was a Taiwanese machine listed, in much better cosmetic condition, loaded with tooling, sold for $1526. IMO a far better deal than this old Cincy.

As I said, greed & stupidity combined. I've been watching that grinder since it was listed, going to be interesting to see if the price goes over $375 now. Kind of funny really....

PDW

Originally Posted by .RC.

was that the same auction that had the Hercus 9B cylindrical grinder.... Had never heard of a 9B before, looked like a stretched 9A... It had no bids as well...

Hi .RC.

Yes, same auction, more fall out from the car parts industry collapsing.. same company as the Towoomba CMI foundry, and There was a CMI Foundry in Horsham as well, I wonder if the Horsham foundry has been liquidated yet? Maybe Harty or Jayson can find out?

As far as the Hercus Grinder goes it sold for $500, one bid only... went to someone in Deniquilin.... Hercus 9B cylindrical grinder with attachments Auction (0076-3002967) | GraysOnline Australia

We met a guy from Brisbane who was there to pick up his Herbert Grinder (Blanchard Style) that he bought for $1000, the 36" (900mm, we lent him the tape to measure it..) diameter electric magnetic chuck would be worth that.

Sad to see the total devastation and wanton destruction that seems to accompany these sort of factory closures... years of history just thrown away without a second thought.

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi .RC.

Yes, same auction, more fall out from the car parts industry collapsing.. same company as the Towoomba CMI foundry, and There was a CMI Foundry in Horsham as well, I wonder if the Horsham foundry has been liquidated yet? Maybe Harty or Jayson can find out?

Hi Ray

Cmi in Horsham is all gone nothing left except a empty black building
the did auction all the stuff through grays but there was only a small workshop

cheers
Harty

Thanks Harty..

Originally Posted by Michael G

Actually Phil, they have all gone. I was emailing someone there about the old 4 that I bought, trying to sus out if parts were available.
I was also trying to convince him that if he wanted, I could probably get together a crowd from OZ that would take those 240V units off his hands. Apparently that $2k price is around cost for them - why I don't know they were so much but my guess at cost would have been a few hundred. Anyway, they were almost gone when I made my ridiculous offer
Although I didn't get anywhere there, he was very helpful. I got an exploded drawing of a 4 plus I found out the secret weakness of that model.

Michael

Thanks Michael, Now that my plan to sell the type IV for huge profits has evaporated , I will have to talk to you about finding out the secret weakness of the type IV it's not the irreplaceable plastic gear by any chance?

Regards
Ray

Originally Posted by PDW

Peoples' stupidity and greed WRT Ebay never fails to astound me. That grinder was sitting there for days with a BIN of $375. Now some clown, in the hopes of saving themselves a lousy $75, has put in a minimum bid and someone else has also bid, looking at the bid count.

Now if I'd actually wanted the thing, I'd have hit the BIN button as soon as I'd satisfied myself WRT freight, condition etc and known I'd had it at a good price. But no, the 'bright spark' has now started a potential bidding war in the hope of saving peanuts. The tooling needed to make that machine useful is easily going to push the cost to $1500 or more. There was a Taiwanese machine listed, in much better cosmetic condition, loaded with tooling, sold for $1526. IMO a far better deal than this old Cincy.

As I said, greed & stupidity combined. I've been watching that grinder since it was listed, going to be interesting to see if the price goes over $375 now. Kind of funny really....

PDW

I really don't think you understand the concept of an AUCTION....

He who wants it more pays the most
I thought everyone knew that...............Obviously not

Sadly the surface plate Surface Plate, Ignyte Precision Granite, 920mm x 600mm on fabricated steel Auction (0357-5006165) | GraysOnline Australia isn't $29 any more, but still very cheap. Hopefully it goes to a deserving member here. Ray, you should buy it, then you could stack all your matching surface plates together like a giant Matryoshka doll!

Matthew, not to put words in Peter's mouth, but I took his point to mean that if somebody wanted the grinder they had the opportunity to do so earlier. Instead, by trying to save some money instead of a very reasonable BIN it's now gone to auction and, while it initially started lower, the fact that now multiple people are involved, they may well end up paying more than they would have paid had they just settled on the BIN price. At least that's what I understood, but sometimes wise men speak in mysterious tongue, besides, what would I know about business.

Pete

Originally Posted by Pete F

Sadly the surface plate Surface Plate, Ignyte Precision Granite, 920mm x 600mm on fabricated steel Auction (0357-5006165) | GraysOnline Australia isn't $29 any more, but still very cheap. Hopefully it goes to a deserving member here. Ray, you should buy it, then you could stack all your matching surface plates together like a giant Matryoshka doll!

Thanks Pete, good idea, unfortunately our rock collection is growing faster than the spaces required to house it... just while we are discussing that particular Ignyte plate, I hope that anyone here who is bidding on it realises that it's going to weigh 200 Kg or so, and factors in the cost of moving it... of course the potential for such a surface plate to burn down the workshop should not be ignored..

There's a couple of other things in that auction that I'm interested in, but driving to Sydney for collection is not very attractive...

Regards
Ray

Interesting lathe:

MACHINE LATHE 1812 HISTORIC HOLTZAPFFEL LONDON ORNAMENTAL TURNING | Other Antiques, Art & Collectables | Gumtree Australia Kingston Area - Moorabbin

"but driving to Sydney for collection is not very attractive..."

Regards
Ray

Aww go on Ray, you can pick up a power hacksaw for me at the same time.

Originally Posted by RayG

Thanks Michael, Now that my plan to sell the type IV for huge profits has evaporated , I will have to talk to you about finding out the secret weakness of the type IV it's not the irreplaceable plastic gear by any chance?

Regards
Ray

Yes, that's it Ray - the famous irreplaceable gear. Apparently they get more brittle with age. My plan was to take mine apart and measure it with the hope of being able to make up a spare for it in metal or plastic. Shall I put you down for a spare gear if I can work it out?

Michael

Originally Posted by Michael G

Yes, that's it Ray - the famous irreplaceable gear. Apparently they get more brittle with age. My plan was to take mine apart and measure it with the hope of being able to make up a spare for it in metal or plastic. Shall I put you down for a spare gear if I can work it out?

Michael

Come on Michael, I've seen your gear making, should be a piece of cake to whip it up after dinner!!

Not so sure about that one Pete - it's stepped and has a slight helix. In the diagram below it is the one with the flag on it. Degree of difficulty goes up...

4ebc.pdf

Michael

Hmmm, yes I see what you mean. By the morning then