Thread: eBay (and other auctions) Metalwork Stuff

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

Watching the 13 has been real interesting.

Hi BT,

I was thinking you'd be an interested observer...

The accountants where I used to work ( in a past life ) always said that any given piece of equipment was only worth what someone was prepared to pay for it...

While that's true from an accounting point of view, there are often other considerations. In the case of machinery, maybe can it be used to manufacture something of value.

In the strange world of high end Swiss machine tools, there are other less quantifiable factors involved. The enjoyment of using a quality machine can be hard to put a price on..

Good luck to the new owner.... I hope it's found a good home..

Regards
Ray

Been watching the auction, with a lot of interest, for a couple of days,
I was keen on the Waldown High Speed Bench Drills & got some specs from Anorak Bob, as I have been interested in purchasing one of these drills for a few years. Then determined from Machinerys Handbook the sized drills I would frequently use in this machine. My current drill press spins max at 3200 rpm & I spent some time today drilling small holes, the smallest being .050" dia with no problem.
Established, in the last 60 yrs how many times I needed to drill such small holes & the answer was... nil.
So these Waldowns are now off my radar ! Just the same they are nice looking machines.
Very pleased to see one of the high speed, bench drills go to Ray G.
Also pleased to see Ewan get hold of that beaut Surface grinder.
The well used Waldown diamond wheel carbide tipped grinder went for a lot more than I thought it would, as I know Anorak Bob is after one of these.
regards
Bruce
Hey, that Shaublin 13 was desirable !

Can someone post a link to that grays auction... I never even saw it, but am interested in seeing what they sold.

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi BT,

I was thinking you'd be an interested observer...

The accountants where I used to work ( in a past life ) always said that any given piece of equipment was only worth what someone was prepared to pay for it...

While that's true from an accounting point of view, there are often other considerations. In the case of machinery, maybe can it be used to manufacture something of value.

In the strange world of high end Swiss machine tools, there are other less quantifiable factors involved. The enjoyment of using a quality machine can be hard to put a price on..

Good luck to the new owner.... I hope it's found a good home..

Regards
Ray

I consider that I was extremely fortunate with my 13. I've told the story before about someone buying at auction the ex Aeronautical Research Laboratory pair of 13s only to trade them in a year later on a Chinese machine. What meant a lot to me about the acquisition was that the mill was offered to me. Could have been someone else but from the time I first laid eyes on the Swiss, the Fiora brothers (Fiora Machinery) said that if the 13s were eventually made available for sale, I would have first choice. The mills sat on their showroom floor for 12 months labelled not for sale. For me a difficult period but one well and truly worth the wait.

Glad you "won" the NH Waldown Ray. Another machine for me to fondle in Shepparton. A beautiful bit of gear but in reality and like Bruce, for me it would be machine objet d'art.

BT

ps. the 13's high speed head tops 6000 rpm. Swift enough for any piddly drilling I'm likely to encounter.

Originally Posted by .RC.

Can someone post a link to that grays auction... I never even saw it, but am interested in seeing what they sold.

This was it here ANU – Engineering & Woodworking Dept however I'm not sure how to bring up the catalogue now the sale has closed. I would be very interested in seeing some other end results too. I watched some of the more notable at the time, like the 13, the 102, and the Chipmaster. I know one of the hydraulic presses sold for not much less than an equivalent new one!

Pete

Originally Posted by Pete F

This was it here ANU – Engineering & Woodworking Dept however I'm not sure how to bring up the catalogue now the sale has closed. I would be very interested in seeing some other end results too. I watched some of the more notable at the time, like the 13, the 102, and the Chipmaster. I know one of the hydraulic presses sold for not much less than an equivalent new one!Pete

If you get the google terms right you can still find the items, you just can't navigate to them from the grays pages.Once I'm inside on the pc I can put links up to all the stuff I had in my watch list.

Thanks Pete, you can go through manually by modifying the URL lot number start at 0001, that is the only bit needed to modify...

Things I saw

Universal Milling Machine - G. Dufour (made in France), Slotted Sliding Tab Auction (0009-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Milling Machine - Schaublin 13 with Standard and Quill Heads, T Slotted Tab Auction (0040-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

different hercus Metalworking Centre Lathe - Hercus model AULM No. 14564F, 9 inch Swing, 10 Auction (0041-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Metalworking Centre Lathe - Colchester 5X20 Chipmaster with 5½ inch Swing, Auction (0055-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Tool and Cutter Grinder - Clarkson fitted with 50 mm Dia x 40 mm Stone whee Auction (0075-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Surface Grinder - Blohm (Made Germany) Magnetic Hold Down Plate approx. 550 Auction (0072-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Radial Arm Drill - Archdale (England) Powered Rise and Fall for the Arm, Co Auction (0057-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Metalworking Mini Centre Lathe - Schaublin 102-80 Mfg. 1968 with 1 x 3 Jaw Auction (0071-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Metalworking Centre Lathe - George Swift & Sons (England) Type 8.v.3 S/n 13 Auction (0056-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Multi Angle Tool Holder. (192876-87) Auction (0087-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

Originally Posted by .RC.

Thanks Pete, you can go through manually by modifying the URL lot number start at 0001, that is the only bit needed to modify...Things I sawUniversal Milling Machine - G. Dufour (made in France), Slotted Sliding Tab Auction (0009-5007102) | GraysOnline AustraliaMilling Machine - Schaublin 13 with Standard and Quill Heads, T Slotted Tab Auction (0040-5007102) | GraysOnline Australiadifferent hercus Metalworking Centre Lathe - Hercus model AULM No. 14564F, 9 inch Swing, 10 Auction (0041-5007102) | GraysOnline AustraliaMetalworking Centre Lathe - Colchester 5X20 Chipmaster with 5½ inch Swing, Auction (0055-5007102) | GraysOnline AustraliaTool and Cutter Grinder - Clarkson fitted with 50 mm Dia x 40 mm Stone whee Auction (0075-5007102) | GraysOnline AustraliaSurface Grinder - Blohm (Made Germany) Magnetic Hold Down Plate approx. 550 Auction (0072-5007102) | GraysOnline AustraliaRadial Arm Drill - Archdale (England) Powered Rise and Fall for the Arm, Co Auction (0057-5007102) | GraysOnline AustraliaMetalworking Mini Centre Lathe - Schaublin 102-80 Mfg. 1968 with 1 x 3 Jaw Auction (0071-5007102) | GraysOnline AustraliaMetalworking Centre Lathe - George Swift & Sons (England) Type 8.v.3 S/n 13 Auction (0056-5007102) | GraysOnline AustraliaMulti Angle Tool Holder. (192876-87) Auction (0087-5007102) | GraysOnline Australia

you missed the emco.....does anyone know what that went for?

Ah thanks Richard, I must try to remember that for the future. I've only been able get in through either my own watch list or Google something specific. Your list was pretty much what I was watching too, more out of curiosity than anything. That big radial arm drill sat at peanuts for ages and I thought someone was going to get a very cheap deal there for a while.

Seemed a big spread of value overall, from pretty good, even once the rip and gst is added. On the other hand there sure were some deep wallets for a few things! As Ray said, to each their own, and the pleasure of using something that may not come up very often is likely to continue long after the purchase price has been forgotten, but phew, some people sure were keen!! I actually expected far more interest for the T&C grinder to be honest. I've been after one like that, or similar, for ages. It's old, but should do all I need and most of them I come across are just physically too large for my increasingly absurdly crowded workshop. Time to start sell a few things I think!!

Pete

The Emco went for $3519.

Some of those prices make my 10EE seem like a fair buy..

Originally Posted by Ueee

The Emco went for $3519.

Plus rip, so actually just shy of $4400!

I guess machinery auctions like this don't come up as often in Canberra as, say Melbourne, and it's close enough to SYD to be no biggy to get to, so I expect that pushed prices even higher. I remember a tool and die shop that closed down 6 months ago (??) and the same thing happened there, crazy prices on some things as some went into auction frenzy. Meanwhile quite a nice Bridgeport was sold at another auction conducted at the same time and barely attracted a bid; everyone was too focussed on the "main event" to notice it.

I think your dead right Peter. Machines alone don't come up often, far less an auction full of them. There just isn't the industry here going bust/upgrading etc.
Mind you, more than half the bids came from out of town, my main rival for the Blohm was from VIC, i saw bids from SA and QLD, and not just on small stuff.

Are you right for pick up of your grinder Peter?

Cheers,
Ew

Hi Pete F
What are the extras with the TC? You lucky fellow.
I placed a bid but maxed out then some one else then you! I am interested in one but cash poor and patient.

What did the Kondia FV1 go for in the pics? I did not even see it listed?

Thanks.


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