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    All right I will dip my toe in the water here and if I do get it bitten off so what I paddle with my arms not my feet.
    I have some danish plans for a piroque which calls for spruce, fir or pine for the rub rail (1" x 5/8").
    I come from a world of Jarrah or theatrical sets
    could I get some help. I don't believe our pine is the best for this sort of job


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    I'm doing the rub rails on Sixpence out of Kapur decking. Just feed it through the thicknesser to get rid of the bumps, then cut to width. It looks a lovely red under poxy , and you can get it in some fantastic lengths - Sixpence is a 14 footer and her rubrails are all one piece

    Richard

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    Thank you for the advice. and oh dear looks like son and I are forced to venture out to buy another tool. Oh dear, I suppose if we must.
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    Quote Originally Posted by deejaybee View Post
    oh dear looks like son and I are forced to venture out to buy another tool. Oh dear, I suppose if we must.
    Force yourself son, force yourself

    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by deejaybee View Post
    All right I will dip my toe in the water here and if I do get it bitten off so what I paddle with my arms not my feet.
    I have some danish plans for a piroque which calls for spruce, fir or pine for the rub rail (1" x 5/8").
    I come from a world of Jarrah or theatrical sets
    could I get some help. I don't believe our pine is the best for this sort of job

    Any timberyard can supply a couple of pieces of oregon which will be fine.Handplane it to exact size. or find a yard who will do it for you..much cheaper than buying a thicknesser which will likely cost as much as the materials for a pirogue, and which you may never need again.
    For the price of some Everdure epoxy coating, you can pretty well use any timber that looks good and will bend around the sheer.Just don't use radiata! Hoop pine would be OK but there are better timbers. For that matter ...jarrah would work at that size.
    Pirogues are 'quick and dirty' work boats.If you're building it from ply, use S2S Structural and epoxy. Oregon will be fine for the other timbers. The originals were never meant to last forever. They were meant to be cost effective fishing boats and only meant to last a few years of daily fishing.When they weren't worth fixing up the users just built another one. With regular care the boat you are building can last much longer than that and not cost a fortune, and after you build the first one you will have the skill to build a replacement when you need it. Just like the original builders did.
    There's a boat inside me trying to get out.
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    Default Oregon I can do

    Last year I gave away two pieces of timber with almost priceless value. 2X1 oregon at 13metres each without a join in them. They had been sitting hidden inside a theatre curtain that had been unused since 1940. The half a house brick that came down with them was a bit of a shock though.

    I nearly cried when the person I gifted them to said he would cut them up and they would become spars for his new yacht. Reality is What else do you do with timber of that length? I had tried to work out a way to make a coffee table top out of them but realy wanted them in the one piece somehow. We wont see a lot of timber of that length again.

    I am sure there should be enought left for my rub rails.

    (I suppose once the epoxy is in place you can use papier-mache if you want. Given the experience of external oregon at my place it would last longer - half of two of the beams in my verandah are now epoxy where the oregon used to be.)

    Son and I have spent a good half day reading the west system manual - we are both lounge-room experts on epoxy.

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