Thread: When decisions get turned on their bum what to do?

Shane,
Fer cryin out loud, I've watched and even read some of your threads. Every week you procrastinate about a design is a week longer before you actually get on the water. As you build a boat, you have that feeling you should have made a different selection of design, but stick with it and get afloat - there's always next time. I'm on boat #13 now, not ideal but, mate, I'm afloat.
An old mate of mine once told me "best is the enemy of good!" and he was right. There will always be something "wrong" with any design you pick, but any design built is better than one you haven't got round to starting yet.
That said, good luck with anything you decide on, keep us posted with LOTS of piccies, just get going!
Cheers
Graeme

Originally Posted by Boatmik

No No NO

Richard - you don't need to add another boat to the fire. And as great as the CY is I reckon it is perhaps too much building for an in between boat - perhaps.

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MIK

Mik, for this Crazed Dingo character, the CY is BLOODY TENDER:eek:

The old coot's mad, gloriously, utterly mad.
And we love him.
But if he doesn't start building some flamin' thing that might float eventually, I'm going to start sending him knitting patterns :eek:

Richard

Right, now that I have my dinner inside me, accompanied by a couple of glasses of Chateau Cardboard (note to the wise, don't buy casks on special, especially if you haven't heard of them before :eek: ), but, back to the drama at hand.

Why did I suggest a Caledonian Yawl?

Yes, yes, I do mean apart from the fact that I lust over them and think that if I can't have one, everyone else should at least aspire to one.

The CY won't carry Shane's pack of hoons, however, it will carry himself, his lovely and much tormented missus, plus a suitable collection of hoons.

Sure, it doesn't have a cabin, but if you want a decent cabin, you're talking big. The CY, even though she's an 18 footer, ain't an overly big boat. She's a day sailer.

So what we're looking at, is a boat that will take Shane and a reasonable selection of his clan out for a day's mucking about in boats. This makes her a craft that will not only serve as an interim boat, but one that will remain appropriate AFTER his big boat, the boat of his dreams, the realisation of all that lust, hits the water ... and stays afloat. It's a boat he can pour all his love and enthusiasm into, but which will not become superceded when the BIG LOVE comes to life.

Really, I was only partly joking when I referred to the CY as Shane's Tender.

The CY is a big build, but not really all that big. It's a rather basic boat with a relatively simple rig that works very well. For a more normal person, one might suggest something in the 14' range, but the extra carrying capacity of the boat will work for Shane (though it won't carry the whole clan) and it's really not that much more work.

Shane's not mug novice or idiot when it comes to boats. It's well within his abilities, which is a better start than most builders of them start with.

It was designed by a Scot so we can be rude about the design without offending certain members of this forum (okay, that's not really a consideration but I thought I'd provide Mik with a safety valve )

[like the way I can be rude to two members in one paragraph?]

I also reckon the CY is the sort of boat that would suit Shane, and that's based on reading his rants for some years now. And, of course, he might just choose another design, but rather than spin him down another path, I'm suggesting he go for the CY. He'll build it and build it well. He'll love the thing once finished and it'll keep him happy on the water past the completion of his major project. It's big enough to be very useful for him but not so big it'll be a brute to build or require heavy haulage vehicles to tug from one wet spot to another.

Anyways, that's my thinking on the matter. I am biased towards the CY but only a few boats match her elegance and the double ended hull adds a nice touch of exclusivity.

And one should remember that I'm not spending my money or time here, I'm spending Shane's, which is always the BEST way to plan a project

Richard

ps the Grey Seal IS a big project. The CY is just a ruddy great big dinghy

This is where I add the post I thought of while I was reading another thread but which had forgotten by the time I got back here :confused:

Richard

I'm a semi-centurion now, we'll just have to get used to things like this

I now consider myself well and truely thoughly slapped upside the noggin

I shall begin building a boat tomorrow morning... no no you cant change my mind... it shall be a boat not the finest boat not even the boat of my dreams nor of my nightmares indeed it may not even resemble a boat at all but it will rest assured be a boat that floats... be made of wood ply in all probability and stuck together with tarzans grip and super glue since I havent got any epoxy at the moment ... but no dont try to stop me!... I know Ive been remiss in my procrastination/learning cycle and I must now build a boat not wait any longer not look any further not even look at the ones I have but go out and just put some timber together and make it float... force it to float!!

And by gar it will then be a boat! and a boat I will have builded and pleased as punch I shall be and nary a word shall pass my lips again or melt the screens across the world as I attempt to source that perfek non existant design to build... no no nothing you blokes can do to help me here!... I have been slapped soundly and have now come to my sences... I will build a boat not just any boat not even a good boat but a boat she shall be held together with screws and glue she will enjoy many a fine adventure even if just paddleing around in the creek

aahh tis a fine thing to be chastised me thinks

And to think I was gonna go out and finish that table Im makin tomorrow I shoulda known better! And realised that me mates here would set me to rights! Cheers mates!

Now considering all that... what say you shall it have a nice turn of bum? a nice fine entry or a bluff stem? you must now help me here as if Im left to my own devices it could end up just a couple of bits of ply bunged together! And you dont want that on yer noggins do you? No of course you dont so come on!!!

Somebody STOP ME!! :eek:

Nah jokin mates just joking but all comments taken on board and efforts will get underweigh as soon as possible

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

And to think I was gonna go out and finish that table Im makin tomorrow

That'd be the main table for the dinette, or the drinks table for the cockpit?

P

Now that'd be Aussie thinking - get the bar for the new boat finished before you've even chosen a design

Richard

With the $ your missus has approved - go buy a boat that some poor sucker has lost his marriage over, at 1/2 the cost of building.

Sail it.
Enjoy it.
Realise the 'perfect boat' never comes along.
Keep your eyes open for the next boat.
Socket a little spare $ away.
Upgrade.
Repeat.

Maybe an Endeavour 24 will get you started.

After all, its only young suckers that buy their dream car as a first car.... thats always a bad experience - no need to do the same with a boat that won't be in the water very often.

well i guess i may be abused for this post but here i go at any rate.................i have been thinking of something else to do recently...like a 5 to 10 year project as we are a wee tad slow down this way,being ex cons offsprings and all.......boatmik and his growling at me in another post regarding cats got me to thinking...get a mig,build a shed,buy a heap of aluminum,scrounge,borrow,beg and all the rest,...so as i am always looking for the cheaper option,excepting when it comes to safety,is it possible for two people to buy a set of plans???...would it not be a fine race....a couple of brothers made two recently,one fellow built his own within two years then sailed to qld and made a dollar or two....the other brother had his made in hobart by devines i believe....nice looking bit of gear she is...

Originally Posted by Wild Dingo

I

I shall begin building a boat tomorrow morning..

efforts will get underweigh as soon as possible

Onya Shane, now yer talkin!
We only slap ya cos we luv ya!
Cheers
Graeme

aaww shucks

Actually mate I did get a start on a boat today!! Wasnt intentional at all... in fact it surprised the buggary out of me when it happened... So... there I was makin the strips for the table edge when snap! damned thing broke didnt it 2 x 1/4in Jarrah strips broken... now Id just started to swearin like a demented warfie on steroids when I spotted something in the turn before the break... mmm sorta looks a tad like a stem there... so I looked a tad closer... mmm back to bendin... snap!... damn back to bending snap! again? damn Im a clumsy buggar... bend the last bit mmmm so now Ive got 4 peices bent to a nice curve... sorta like a bunch of stems

So I took another long look as I took them of the mould and though yep! thems stems alright! so I put them to one side to laminate together into two 1in stems for a boat of some sort or other! gotta start somewheres eh? may as well start at the front and work my way back to the bum!

Luckily as they say I had several more that Id prepared earlier just waitin for their turn on the mould... and taking a bit more time with it a bit of hot water on t towel covering each section to heat it and whallah this time it went around no dramas!... so got both done table edge band and the stems... gawd sometimes Im just so damned good I stunn myself! AND!! I also got my sisters paint brush box Im makin 1/2 done as well gawd what a day!!


Two blokes could do just that me apple isle matey... me personally Ive got this fobia about aluminium and welders... tend to cut an burn me it do! but no reason it couldnt happen if theyre both interested in the same design that is!

them stem things you are talking about????????????????could they be called knees as i have been collecting those little buggers for a little while now..........mine are no glue just an eye and jigsaw required along wiyh knowledge i guess????so you check your email pup?

one last thingy while i think upon it afore i am drunk.....the old fellows would make a small model to scale....ribbands to sheerstrake to horny timber and all that and then they would take it up in scale and whammo a boat....so who can do that nowadays.........and do it all in the telly room afore the damned contraction.....all the fellows i knew could do that are all gone rip would be good to see a resurgence but.......

Nope not Knees ol son stem.. sorta a bit larger than a canoe nice steady curve for a couple of feet... so stem of a wee boat... I DID NOT SAY I was gonna build a whopper boat all I says was I was gonna build a boat that floats... so without plans without ideas without a clue I simply will build something that will float with bits and bobs as I blunder along :eek: What it will end up like is anyones guess even mine! but well withou0t a plan an idea or a clue aint much we can do about that eh!

Yes the old fellas ways were mysterious ways... but mate you and I we be the adventurous types born out of years with our minds we can but do such surely? first picture the boat in your mind... go on yer soak!!... strewth picture it yet? okay now gets some timber and make a wee scale model of it... thats easy enough eh? SO NOW... build that thar boat me boyoh!!

Nah those old buggars were of a different ilk of a different time... nowadays we cant phart straight without an instruction manual an degree in phartin straight and askin every other buggar with said degree if the phart is to be actually straight of slightly straight!!... ah well its up to us me ol apple pimple to show them we can do it straight outta our heads!

Check my email everyday ol pimple me ol matey... nothin from your good self for a few days now... better whip it over again as my other computer died in the ass the other night and its probably sittin munched on that one bloody computers! :mad: