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21st February 2023, 03:07 PM #31
I had never heard of “clickbankers” before, so I goggled it. There is such a thing as Clickbank, which is an online thing that people can join for a fee and somehow make a bit of money.
I know I’m a bit thick when it comes to such things, but I can’t work out how it relates to the forum .Brad.
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21st February 2023, 03:52 PM #32
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21st February 2023, 04:34 PM #33SENIOR MEMBER
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Matt...put simply!
There are folk lurking on the forum,banned or otherwise,that are causing (potential) harm/mischief
Spammers,hackers and the like.
We as members are encouraged to report suspicious activity
I have actively done that!
Not rocket science...just keeping a lid on the garbage!
Hoping Neil can offer an extended explaination
Log Dog
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21st February 2023, 04:41 PM #34SENIOR MEMBER
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21st February 2023, 09:19 PM #35
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21st February 2023, 09:27 PM #36
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21st February 2023, 10:02 PM #37
They are probably the Vietnamese equivalent of the 40-year-old virgin still living at home with mum, never come out of their bedroom, skin has never seen the sun, never had a girlfriend or a job, just sitting at their computer eating junk food and drinking coke. And obviously they don't have a shed to go and work in to keep themselves occupied so they hang around the forums of people who actually do productive stuff because that makes them feel good.
Keep up the good work Log Dog and thanks Neil, for keeping them out.I got sick of sitting around doing nothing - so I took up meditation.
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21st February 2023, 10:17 PM #38SENIOR MEMBER
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21st February 2023, 11:32 PM #39
One response to all questions.
These people or this person as it is possible that it could be one person. Has/have signed up mostly on the same day or same few days numerous times and even years apart.
Sometimes initially to create havoc, flog their own site (often toxic, or or worse and yes there is worse) However over the las few years many are using forums and blogs and other social media to sneak in links to clickbank sites.
Contrary to what is said many of the click bank / click bait sites pay extremely well for the links these people sneak on to sites. Many of them will pay up to 30% of sales made to the click baiter who was responsible for the link and sale.
One of the worst that has been caught and their click bankers banned numerous times was Teds 16,000 Woodworking Plans which I'm sure many if not most will have seen briefly on here or hundreds of other sites Check out this woodworkweb.com scam page for info re Teds and it's far from the worst one.
The people that have been recently deleted yes and even the few that haven't posted from March 2022 are a blight to forums and blogs. This forum has been under attack for around 12 years now with may thousands being caught and deleted by me and moderators, not to mention the below deletions and preventions shown below and available at the bottom of home page for all to see.
Spam-O-Matic Statistics
649851 Spammers Denied Registration
...1494 Spammers Permanently Banned
...1522 Spammers submitted to StopForumSpam
...1593 Spammers submitted to Akismet
...15893 Spammy Posts Automatically Moderated
The first figure in the above list 649 million 850 thousand gives you a bit of an idea as to what we're fighting against daily and the ones deleted in this thread are just a drop in the ocean of the lurkers/sleepers that are still hidden, unseen in our member list.
Hopefully all the above is of help to those who don't know what the problem is and why these people should be banned.
Lurkers, aren't a problem: We have many lurkers who have been registered for many long years and never posted, but regularly view the forums to keep themselves informed, find an answer to problem, or are just too shy or timid to post, etc.Lurkers with intent, are a proble: As per all the above we can't and don't catch them all when they register and the mongrels are getting more clever with their registrations over the last few years when they realise there is money to be made as a clickbait poster or spammer if you can sneak in a few links, even for a couple of hours before being caught and all will be caught sooner or later.
We have had as many as 250,000+ member register over the past 23+ years, but over those years I have culled and mods have culled almost half of them. Not all spammers, etc. but many who registered and 5 years later had never been back since they registered or may have used bogus emails, etc.
I reckon all the above pretty much says it all or at least enough.
Cheers - NeilKEEP A LID ON THE GARBAGE... Report spam, scams, and inappropriate posts, PMs and Blogs.
Use the Report icon at the bottom of all Posts, PM's and Blog entries.
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22nd February 2023, 08:49 AM #40
Thank you Neil. The work you guys do behind the scenes is incredible and very much appreciated.
I for one never associated a lurker as a "lurker with intent." Like most forum members, I understand that innocent lurkers probably outnumber active members 50:1 or more on most forums.
If they ("lurkers with intent") are inserting links to nefarious or scam sites such as Ted's Woodworking then I guess technically they aren't a "lurker".
I guess if we are more vigilant as members and report suspect "members" or posts we can make your roles a little easier.
Thank you.Mobyturns
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22nd February 2023, 06:35 PM #43
Maybe it would be good for you to do a bit of a tutorial or info (for those interested), as to how you go about finding the information needed to report these suspicious felons.
KEEP A LID ON THE GARBAGE... Report spam, scams, and inappropriate posts, PMs and Blogs.
Use the Report icon at the bottom of all Posts, PM's and Blog entries.
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23rd February 2023, 04:31 PM #44SENIOR MEMBER
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Oakey doakey
Here's a few tips on how to recognise suspicious felons that are prowling on the forum.
Firstly the name(s) they adopt on the forum
I look out for ones that are...
a)Nonsensical
b)Asian (but not limited to)
C)Bearing numerals (often year dates)
D)Clusters of individual names that are similar to each other
E)Newly registered ones
Keeping an eye on whether certain entities are on the forum simultaneousy and if they exit the forum simultaneously as well
This can relate to an entity having multiple identities
A Red flag
Look at their D.O.B profiles...
A felon with multiple identities will often have exact or similar birth dates displayed on their user profiles
A trap they ALL seem to fall into for some reason or another!
Their location...
Often fictitious or nonsensical
Sometimes numbers are used...when that occurs I simply 'google' it.
If I get lucky it will reveal a mobile number(and its origin)
Make google your friend!
Sometimes they state their user name as their location
Another red flag
Membership status...
Often the felon (s) are new members awaiting email confirmation
Forum behaviour...
Have noticed a lot of these entities will only visit certain sites on the forum eg.Wanted to buy/sell etc
Red flag for clickbankers
And that's about it
Although after a while one develops a 'gut' feeling as to which ones are perverse and nasty
Hope that helps a tad in identifying these suspect felons and to 'keep a lid on the garbage'
Log Dog
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23rd February 2023, 06:16 PM #45GOLD MEMBER
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So being Asian is a red flag.
Not really a good way to create an inclusive environment, is it?Apologies for unnoticed autocomplete errors.
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