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21st July 2006, 04:59 PM #1
Flawed ice bucket
As discussed in the turning area, piccies of the ill fated ice bucket.
Problems were:
El Cheapo Lathe
El Cheapo chisels and gouges
Blunt above
Poor technique
Green wood (Liquid Amber) incorrectly seasoned
Little experience
Marginal skill
As can be seen the result is far from perfect. After the base expoded on the lathe, I epoxied it back together, cracks kept appearing. Seems to have stabilised after a couple of nights next to the pot belly.
Filled cracks can be seen to the right of the base and back left of the lid.
The finish is poor too, the Super Glue I used when the cracks began to appear shows thru the finish (Shellac and Sponsors Wax), I wasn't game to put the base back on the lathe after its disintegration so the finish is les than the lid, due to hand sanding.
As predicted, the lid is not as tight a fit as before the cracking etc, not too bad tho.
All in all a catalogue of what not to do, still it will fulfill its primary purpose: water tight and insulating.
Please excuse the montage in the piccy, it's my version of a still life!Bodgy
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21st July 2006, 05:28 PM #2
Hi Bodgy,
May one assume that the depleted contents of the Balvenie can be attributed to the contemplation of the work
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21st July 2006, 05:28 PM #3
at least its got character, and its already got a story to tell, just imagine what it'll be like after a few bottles of wine!!
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21st July 2006, 06:12 PM #4
Perfect for holding flawed ice... and it looks like you already know what to corrupt it with.
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21st July 2006, 07:38 PM #5Originally Posted by Auld Bassoon
Unfortunately, as I no longer travel as much, my collection of Single Malts is sadly depleted. They are all at half tide.Bodgy
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22nd July 2006, 07:00 AM #7Intermediate Member
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Hi Bodgy,
I think despite all the setbacks I would still call it a success You kept going when otherswould have thrown the towl in and even though you say it has several flaws it still looks very nice. Good Work. Cheers, Joe.
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22nd July 2006, 09:47 AM #8
I just wrote an epistol on how I admired your piece and how you should not blame failure on the tools and how well I admired how you recovered from the "Explosion" but in my inebrated condition I pressed the wrong key and sent the elloquintly orated piece into Cyber Heaven, so now I must ask the same questions again... First, I like the shape and that is probably the cause for the failure of the piece because straight sided pieces with flat bopttoms have a great deal of stress when drying so I don't think it is hard to assume that even good tools and equipment would fair much better. You certainly recovered well from the "Explosion" and I commend you for the effort. but I do have a couple of questions.
Is the piece Lined? or is it finished and exposed to the Ice and Water soaking that will occur as you use the piece. Knowing that you will over indulge in that fine bottle of Scotch to the point where you will allow the ice to melt as you stuper on the floor and then the wood is subject to a good deal of water stress. What finish did you apply and how much and did it happen yet?
I am interested in doing such a piece but I feel that the straight side design would be too stressful and will option for a more unique shape , perhaps a Ball (?) How unique can one get when turning with a lathe that goes round and round and ...
I like the work, Liquid Amber or whatever you call it. Why do you tempt me with that Cigar, do you not know how much I love them and the Dr. said I can't have any more? But I do prefer a good Bourbon to the Scotch.
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22nd July 2006, 10:02 AM #9
Thanks all for your kind comments.
Hickory, that's encouraging to know that the shape contributed to my problems, and not my incompetence. One takes comfort where it may be found.
The bucket is not yet lined, as I feel there is more drying out necessary. You're quite correct in that the ice will probably melt as we lie around stupified. I intend to use 2 part epoxy, same as used on timber floors. A couple of coats should do. Not worried about any toxicity, pales to nought next to your average hangover.
I used black felt on the bottom. Makes a nice base that wont mark the Shellac on the tables, and cheap as chips from the local dress makers shop. Always enjoy going there, a man seems to be a novelty for them. Attached with spray on contact adhesive.
To make matters worse for you, did you notice that the cigar was Cuban? We have no prohibitions here.
I also enjoy Bourbon, but have to mix it. I guess its what one's brought up with.
Good idea re the ball shaped ice bucket. That'll be my next go.Bodgy
"Is it not enough simply to be able to appreciate the beauty of the garden without it being necessary to believe that there are faeries at the bottom of it? " Douglas Adams
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22nd July 2006, 11:37 AM #10
So... ahem... its not yet finished drying out?... soooo... given that you have a fair number (this is an assumption based primarily on other assumptions ie: age etc) of these half tide bottles of fine single malt (any doubles?) layin around no?
Now mate dont go chewin me ear off whith what Im gonna say here as it may sound like sacralige... sooo heres me thoughts
1) soak the icebucket in some of the lower quality burbons whiskeys and such that are just sittin around at low tide for a few weeks/months... this will do several things I think...
a) give the timber a really sexy patina
b) give the timber a really sexy scent (I mean comeon!! Camphor Laurel AND burbon? Thats gotta be a mix made in heaven
c) give the timber time to dry in a better environment (wet = slower)
2) Once done get a box thats slightly larger than the ice bucket make a wee setup for the ceegar to sit on INSIDE the box... light ceegar seal box as much as possible mmm may have to drill or cut a wee hole either side to allow ventelation and airflow so the ceegar stays alight keep ceegar going till its just ash... this will do several things I think...
a) give the timber a really sexy patina
b) give the timber a really sexy scent (I gotta repeat the same as above here adding the rich flavor of the ceegar being Cuban (does it get better?) will permeat the ice bucket soooooooooooo well)
Now having done all this I reckon even with its to your eye blemishes will be bloody spiffy!! But mate if you used the things you said you used its turned out brilliantly! BE PROUD me bodgy ol matey be PROUD!! You done good ol son!Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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