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30th August 2005, 02:04 PM #1
Rietveld
Some time ago I was browsing trough an old tread where design, form and function was discussed.
One off the participants mentioned Rietveld, a Dutch architect. One of the design he is famous for is the Red and Blue chair.
Some of you liked it and others did clearly not.
Back in Holland I once made a miniature of the R&B chair. Just for the funn of it and to have a look at the design in 3D.
Now I tried to build one full scale. The wood I used is Bengkirai and kamper.
The biggest challenge in building, is to bore the holes for the dowels very precise. Since I not yet have a drillpress I had to do with the longholeboring attachment on my combisaw. Worked out well.
I had a little problem with the seat and back. After glueing, both cupped so much that if I had 2 more pieces I could have made a whine cask!
After ripping in to smaller boards everything went well.
Spray-painted the frame and the seat and back.
The original chairs have a poem written underneath the seat. Being a little bit Balinese I had to put this on to offcourse. After all the Balinese are experts in copying.
Yes you can sit quite comfortebal in it! The reclining seat and back give a good support to the body. And you can even read a paper in it see
http://www.woodworkforums.ubeaut.com...ad.php?t=10688
Maybe it is not an outstanding piece of woodworking but it was fun doing it. And the contrast against all the Balinese woodwork in and around the house looks nice.
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30th August 2005, 02:34 PM #2
OK, as one of the ones who 'clearly does not', let me say it's a nicely executed example of an uncomfortable looking chair
I preferred it before you painted it but to each his own. I would probably put the paper on the seat and sit on it rather than read it. Maybe a cushion or two would make it more inviting"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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30th August 2005, 03:00 PM #3
It does have that arty look.
Interesting to look at but not practical to use.
After a closer look.......the angle of the back to the seat and seat to the floor........and the arm rest.........
it might be OK to sit in.
The glossy colours compliment the style.
It would be a good attention getter.
I think it looks great and well built.
congratulations.Scally
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30th August 2005, 04:40 PM #4
Well, I really like it, but likewise could do without the paint. and Rietveld is probably turning in his grave now, but i think some subtle curves in the seat and back would ofset the rest of the piece nicely. cool design. strong work. well done!
-Ryan
there's no school like the old school.
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30th August 2005, 05:03 PM #5
Kayu
Thank you for the pics. You have done a wonderful job of recreating this classic chair.
I have been in love with the Rietveld Red Yellow and Blue chair for at least 25 years. His other work is also inspiring, but the simplicity and colour here is delightful.
I have visited museums, attended exhibitions, etc to see his work. I have a number of drawings, but no measured plans, per se (although I once - some 20 years ago - tried to copy and measure the exact details through a showroom window late at night ). If you have measurements and plans, would you let me have a copy? Much appreciated.
Regards from Perth
Derek
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30th August 2005, 06:38 PM #6
Thanks all for the positive critics.
SilentC, your invited the next time you are in Bali to try the chair (btw bring your own seating)
Indeed Ryan I can hear Rietveld rummble in his grave already.:eek:
I have measured drawings, but ofcourse they are metric. When I'm back from Holland (visa-run) I will contact you Derek.
Bye (plane leaves in two hours)
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30th August 2005, 06:52 PM #7
a good looking comfortable chair, the ergonomics look spot on
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30th August 2005, 08:03 PM #8
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30th August 2005, 08:13 PM #9
I am also a 'do not' but the Adirondack chair looks exceptionally back breaking but is surprisingly comfortable.
Stupidity kills. Absolute stupidity kills absolutely.
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30th August 2005, 08:22 PM #10
Kayu
Firstly let me say I think you have done a great job & I quite like the paintjob but I am solidly with "Silent" on this issue. I think the original design is typical arthouse desing rubbish and worse than that from the hand/pen of a bloody Architect. I love architecture and its creators but they make the worst furniture designers and should leave that to people who are willing to spend more than 5 mins designing a piece.
It is just a wild guess but I suspect something like this would be designed by someone who was not likely or able to actually construct it either.
Enough ranting from me I had a bad day.
Cheers
RossRoss"All government in essence," says Emerson, "is tyranny." It matters not whether it is government by divine right or majority rule. In every instance its aim is the absolute subordination of the individual.
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30th August 2005, 09:55 PM #11
I dont mind it, I think it would grow on you if you owned it... but as said a bit of padding would be nice.
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30th August 2005, 10:35 PM #12I think the original design is typical arthouse desing rubbish and worse than that from the hand/pen of a bloody Architect
Not only was Gerrit Rietveld a practicing architect, but he was also a trained cabinetmaker.
His father was a cabinetmaker, as was his mother, his sister and three maternal aunts.
No, seriously, he was indeed a cabinetmaker, and trained in his fathers' shop.
Keep in mind (if you were not aware) that he designed this chair in 1918, and this (and other works of his) were responsible for a world revolution in furniture design. For a fuller understanding of the significance of this chair, go to http://www.terraingallery.org/Anthony-Romeo-Chair.html
Regards from Perth
Derek
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31st August 2005, 09:07 AM #13Keep in mind (if you were not aware) that he designed this chair in 1918, and this (and other works of his) were responsible for a world revolution in furniture design.
I'm sorry, but reading that article just reinforces my ideas on the subject. This says it all:
Rietveld was not interested in conventional ideas of comfort"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind of person I'm preaching to."
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31st August 2005, 09:15 AM #14
Hi, while it's not my idea of seating, I can appreciate how well made it looks in the photos and the end result does look good. I too wouldn't have painted it, but I think the paint job has been done well.
cheers
RufflyRustic
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31st August 2005, 09:25 AM #15
Ok I'll go against all the trends.
Congratulations on an extremely well constructed piece. I like the way you, and some others here mention the troubles encountered on the way to completeing a project. Gives me hope when I'm looking upon another stuff up in my own shed.
Whilst I don't like paint on most pieces, i think this one screams for the finish you gave it. More traditional adirondack chairs probably don't want paint, but this piece with its more severe lines can handle the stronger finish.
BTW, it looks bloody uncomfortable.Boring signature time again!