Thread: Australian Flag

Pauline. would sort em out .

yes its not good but it may stop tension... see what happen at the tennis.

Personnaly , I don't like to see people wearing the Australian flag as a cape draped over their shoulders . It seems disrespectful somehow although I'm sure they don't mean it to be .
Rick

But ... but ... but, you can't claim any wrong doing at the tennis, or support Pauline, or object to the latest banning of the waving of the flag - WE ARE MULTICULTURAL YOU KNOW!!

One mustn't upset all those who have dual nationality, or never renounced thier old country when becomming Australian citizens (that too was a politically correct decision).

By next year one may not be permitted to actually show aliegience to any football club - that might upset the "collar and ties" in the next stand.

soth

I'm guessing Ernknot wasn't listening to Triple j this afternoon.

on tonights news in darwin thay said the concert backed down because little jhonny coward said "it was unAustralian to ban the flag "

On our walk this arvo, I took this pic on top of the hill at Alexandra Headland.

Maroochy Council ain't scared of no wogs!

Cheers,

P

Like most issues of this nature, the decisons are usually made by Anglo, "umpteenth-generation" Australians that decide to make these decisons off their own bat.

My 'recent immigrant' friends think things like 'banning Santa in kindy's' is bloody stupid...
they'd just like it if their "days of cultural significance" could be included in the calendar so that their kids don't feel like they are missing out. Sort of a 'who cares so long as the kids feel happy' kinda thing.

Bloody uni edumakated, pc ratbags..... they'll be first up against the wall come the dictatorship, I say!

IMO, from the bloke that would never wear an Aus flag as I personally think it is disrespectful and a far too American. Banning it is just an matter of complete tossery though.

Seeya

Originally Posted by ernknot

It seems that business greed in Aus has got to the point where the idiots that run a musical festival ( sic Australia Day) put the date forward and ban people from carrying, or wearing anything that looks like a Ozzie flag.
I JUST CRACKED IT AGAIN!!!!! What the hell is happening in this great country????? Why are we bearing our #### to any religion/politics/agenda that may upset one or two f@#$%wits. What about the silent majority?? I get the impression that TV is to blame for a lot of this. Stir the pot and they will ratings. The so called Journos are nothing but a bunch of spoon fed half wits who would have no idea about what is going on in the world.
If anyone does not like the Ozzie flag then that's fine. I love it, my mates died for it, until the whole counrty agrees to change it I will love it the way it is. If those people who think it is sonmething to denegrade then come and see me , I will have a "chat" them. If "racial hatred " comes about because of the flag then those who hate it can off to wherever they came from if they are Ozzies then shame on them. The Australian flag stands for our way of life and freedoms, note the word "freedom"? This does not mean that any greedy grubby bastard who wants to cash in on our National Day has the right to ban our flag. Who the hell are the so call organisors?? I would love to talk with them and point them in the right direction - To Hell!!

I'm sorry Ern, I'm not being disrespectful and I know where you're coming from. I wouldn't wear the flag either as it is disrespectful IMO (I'm ex-Army). However, Australian overseas forces marched and fought under the Union Jack not the Australian Flag as commonly thought by younger generations. Its fair to say that Australian soldiers fought for King and Country but its erroneous to say that they fought for the Australian Flag.
The problem the BDO organisers had to contend with was the possibility of neo-nazis and skinheads using the flag to incite racial hatred during the Sydney leg of the concert. I'm pretty sure that if there is racial trouble in Sydney then the headlines will read, "Aussie Flag bearing skinheads run riot". And you're right, the whole race issue is beaten up by the bloody meeja. If Pauline Hanson was an ugly bloke they'd treat her like the crazy Sydney Mullah. Every time the Howard govt slips in the polls he trots out the old racist or terrorism card. So, he has a lot to answer for too.

Rant off.

The best response I heard to this was "if people are causing trouble while carrying the flag, don't ban the flag, ban the people causing the trouble".

It seems to me that our politicians love scoring cheap shots wherever they can, and accusing someone of being un-australian is the cheapest shot of all.

You only need to listen to people who were at last years Big Day Out to understand what the organisers are thinking.

It turns out that groups of young blokes were wandering around targetting 'non-australian' looking kids with the flag and were telling them to kiss the flag and swear allegiance to it or else they would get a beating. And this was leading to trouble - as it would. So for me the bigger transgressor isn't the Big Day Out organisers but these twerps using the flag to incite fear!!

Imagine if you were down shopping at Woolies and a group of RSL diggers came up to you and demanded (with threats of violence) that you kiss the flag and swear allegiance to it - what would you do, how would you feel? Because this is no different.

In an aside I also think, Howard, Iemma, Rudd etc get to score a double hit, because I also feel that conservatives like them feel truly threatened by events such as the Big Day Out, because they don't understand the schisms of todays kids. And to call the organisers 'Un-Australian' just puts another little wedge between main stream society and the youth.

In hindsight, I am sure the organisers would have done it differently but I don't think we should shoot the messenger - the real crims here are the little brats walking around raining on everyones parade with seriously misplaced nationalism.

Originally Posted by Shedhand

However, Australian overseas forces marched and fought under the Union Jack not the Australian Flag as commonly thought by younger generations. .

Sheddie, am i right in thinking that Australia only fought in the Korean War under the Australian Flag? Im pretty sure that was the case

Vietnam

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Thanks. I knew it was just the one around that time frame