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    Hi guys,

    Ive been waiting for the full on anti government rave about this post. Ive been so tempted to kick off but have kept my fingers in my pockets.

    Agree about the monarchy, well someone had to do the asset strip didnt they? They're irrelevance is getting more noticeable, particularly here, but nothings gonna change till the Govt changes.

    BTW, have I mentioned that whole citizenship test thing is odious, obnoxious essentialism, the very worst populist pap around, designed to marginalise Pauline and her ilk. Reminds me of the raves of Hilaly and the other extremists. As a civilised country we can do a lot better. Phew, glad to get that out,

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    Quote Originally Posted by weisyboy View Post
    simple.

    hey need a mutch harder test there are to many foriners here already.
    Australia's Native people have said this since Phillip Landed and started the colony

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee View Post
    Not only today mate, but always. I wish we had become a republic at the last referendum for then we would be rid of them.

    Saw a tv show the other night on the Windsor castle, their family home, and I was disgusted at the oppulence of their lifestyle only because of their freebooting ancestors.

    The enormous amount of money spent on their lifestyle from the public purse could provide housing for all the homeless in the country instead.

    Peter.
    HUM James Packer inherits $7 billion sells of everything and as a good republican gives it all to his Aussie mates, Turnbull decides to follow suit, Murdoch who fled the country now not an Aussie, but son is, decides the same...Then Allan Jones, Pratt they have heeded the call of the Aussie mates in need.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sturdee View Post
    Saw a tv show the other night on the Windsor castle, their family home, and I was disgusted at the oppulence of their lifestyle only because of their freebooting ancestors.

    Peter.
    we should get a group of woodies together and go and seig the castle just like in th good old days. otherwise there will be the same family ruleing forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wheelinround View Post
    HUM James Packer inherits $7 billion sells of everything and as a good republican gives it all to his Aussie mates, Turnbull decides to follow suit, Murdoch who fled the country now not an Aussie, but son is, decides the same...Then Allan Jones, Pratt they have heeded the call of the Aussie mates in need.

    queue'sa mile long at every woodies & tools store.
    most of those earned the money through legitimate business practices, the monarchy earned their through subjugation of nations, and still expect the taxpayers to keep them in the manner they have become accustomed to, for doing what??

    At least the others you have mentions have actual jobs and actually create something
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gra View Post
    most of those earned the money through legitimate business practices, the monarchy earned their through subjugation of nations, and still expect the taxpayers to keep them in the manner they have become accustomed to, for doing what??

    At least the others you have mentions have actual jobs and actually create something
    I guess you have never delved into the business and charity royalty from all over the world have created and invest in creating jobs.

    Considering the large number of public servants Australia has who demand they be kept by tax payers whats the difference ust the size of the purse

    You can bet your life that Australia's richest have done their far amount of shystering to get their money deals with gov and private and unions all for the sake of a $. Look at the latest Macbank's millioneers only just suck the mum n dad investors dry from their fee's n charges with every company they own.
    Thing is we would all do the same if given half a chance.
    Just look at the US and other countries who are Republic's seriously first many are in reallity dictatorships.

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    Well, as one of those foriners you're trying to keep out, I went for my Citizenship Interview this morning. The citizenship application does ask if you're a terrorist, murderer, etc, etc. But under the current rules, at the interview, you have to be able to tell them this:

    At interview most clients will be expected to know and demonstrate your understanding of the following:

    Responsibilities - As an Australian citizen, you are required to:

    - obey the laws and fulfil your duties as an Australian citizen;
    - enrol on the Electoral Register and vote at Federal, State, Territory and local government elections and referendums;
    - serve on a jury, if called on; and
    - defend Australia, should the need arise.


    Privileges As an Australian citizen, you will benefit from the entitlement, under Australian law, to the same rights as all Australian citizens:

    - the right to vote to help elect Australia’s governments;
    - the right to apply for appointment to public office or to nominate for election to parliament
    - the right to apply for an Australian passport and to leave and re-enter Australia without applying for a resident return visa;
    - the right to seek assistance from Australian diplomatic representatives while overseas;
    - to apply to enlist in the defence forces and for government jobs requiring Australian citizenship; and
    - the right to register any child born to you overseas as an Australian citizen by descent.

    Now, I don't think either the new version or the old version will have any effect on the composition of the Australian population, but the Afghan family in the next cubicle who were struggling to recite their rights and responsiblities, had two children who sat and played quietly with each other for the 20 minutes I was there, and even said "goodbye" when I left. How many "Australian" children would behave as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhancock View Post
    Well, as one of those foriners you're trying to keep out, I went for my Citizenship Interview this morning. The citizenship application does ask if you're a terrorist, murderer, etc, etc. But under the current rules, at the interview, you have to be able to tell them this:

    At interview most clients will be expected to know and demonstrate your understanding of the following:

    Responsibilities - As an Australian citizen, you are required to:

    - obey the laws and fulfil your duties as an Australian citizen;
    - enrol on the Electoral Register and vote at Federal, State, Territory and local government elections and referendums;
    - serve on a jury, if called on; and
    - defend Australia, should the need arise.


    Privileges As an Australian citizen, you will benefit from the entitlement, under Australian law, to the same rights as all Australian citizens:

    - the right to vote to help elect Australia’s governments;
    - the right to apply for appointment to public office or to nominate for election to parliament
    - the right to apply for an Australian passport and to leave and re-enter Australia without applying for a resident return visa;
    - the right to seek assistance from Australian diplomatic representatives while overseas;
    - to apply to enlist in the defence forces and for government jobs requiring Australian citizenship; and
    - the right to register any child born to you overseas as an Australian citizen by descent.

    Now, I don't think either the new version or the old version will have any effect on the composition of the Australian population, but the Afghan family in the next cubicle who were struggling to recite their rights and responsiblities, had two children who sat and played quietly with each other for the 20 minutes I was there, and even said "goodbye" when I left. How many "Australian" children would behave as well?
    Well I hope you make it in, we need more woodies . maybe that can become an entrance criteria....

    A lot of the people who immigrate here realise how good we have it. Its the second and third generations who start behaving like hoons, but then so do the third, fourth, fifth etc

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    Well now if this doesn't take the cake Packer's just got a pay rise care of the taxpayers and government http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...462357171.html

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    OK I want to be serious about this. Let's see how I go.

    1. Which colours are represented on the Australian flag?
    a. Green and yellow
    b. Red, black and yellow
    c. Blue, red and white
    d. Orange and purple

    2. Indigenous people have lived in Australia for ...
    a. At least 40,000 years
    b. About 8000 years
    c. About 800 years
    d. Less that 400 years

    3. Australia's national flower is the ...
    a. Rose
    b. Wattle
    c. Kangaroo paw
    d. Banksia

    4. Which is a popular sport in Australia?
    a. Ice hockey
    b. Water polo
    c. Cricket
    d. Table tennis

    5. Australia's political system is a ...
    a. Parliamentary democracy
    b. Monarchy
    c. Dictatorship
    d. Socialist state

    6. The Capital of Australia is...
    a. Sydney
    b. Melbourne
    c. Hobart
    d. Canberra

    7. Which animals are on the Australian Coat of Arms?
    a. Wombat and echidna
    b. Kangaroo and emu
    c. Kangaroo and dingo
    d. Lion and unicorn

    8. Where did the first European settlers to Australia come from?
    a. Spain
    b. France
    c. England
    d. Ireland

    9. Who is Australia's head of state?
    a. Prime Minister John Howard
    b. Queen Elizabeth II
    c. Governor General Michael Jeffery
    d. Premier Steve Bracks

    10. Who was the first Prime Minister of Australia?
    a. Sir Edmund Barton
    b. Sir Henry Parkes
    c. John Curtin
    d. Sir Robert Menzies

    11. What song is Australia's national anthem?
    a. God Save the Queen
    b. Star Spangled Banner
    c. Advance Australia Fair
    d. Waltzing Matilda

    12. What do you call the elected head of a state government?
    a. Governor
    b. Premier
    c. Mayor
    d. Prime Minister

    13. Which federal political party or parties are in power?
    a. Australian Labor Party
    b. Australian Democrats and the Australian Greens
    c. National Party
    d. Liberal Party and National Party

    14. Which of the following are Australian values?
    a. Men and women are equal
    b. `A fair go'
    c. Mateship
    d. All of the above

    15. Australia's values are based on the ...
    a. Teachings of the Koran
    b. The Judaeo-Christian tradition
    c. Catholicism
    d. Secularism

    16. What does Anzac Day commemorate?
    a. The Gallipoli landing
    b. Armistice Day
    c. The Battle of the Somme
    d. Victory in the Pacific

    17. In what year did the first European settlers arrive?
    a. 1801
    b. 1770
    c. 1788
    d. 1505

    18. How many states are there in Australia?
    a. 5
    b. 6
    c. 7 (exclude TAS)
    d. 8

    19. Australian soldiers fought in ...
    a. World War I and World War II
    b. Korean War
    c. Vietnam War
    d. All of the above

    20. What is Australia's biggest river system?
    a. The Murray Darling
    b. The Murrumbidgee
    c The Yarra
    d. The Mississippi

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    I think the first settlers arrived in 1788, Wongo, but I don't know the first prime minister....
    Cheers, Richard

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    2. Indigenous people have lived in Australia for ...
    a. At least 40,000 years
    b. About 8000 years
    c. About 800 years
    d. Less that 400 years

    A lot of people will fail that because Christians don't believe the world is that old. It also should read "Anthropologists believe that ..."
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    You could be right. I keep thinking its a bit over 200 years so I picked 1801.
    1788 is a bit over 200 years too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rhancock View Post
    I think the first settlers arrived in 1788, Wongo, but I don't know the first prime minister....
    Barton.

    I'd also answer d to question 15.
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    Wasn't the Bicentennial in 1988?
    Cheers, Richard

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