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    Quote Originally Posted by jow104
    The minority of single mothers are not avoiding having babies.
    Very true. A minority of single mothers are having babies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrian
    Very true. A minority of single mothers are having babies.
    adrian:

    blood pressure normal,
    pulse OK

    How are you?


    Over and out.
    woody U.K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jow104
    adrian:

    blood pressure normal,
    pulse OK

    How are you?
    English skin + 45 years of Aussie sun = skin cancers. I seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time getting little chunks cut out. Six, a couple of weeks ago and another two next week.
    It's a good way to lose weight but I'd rather not.
    Apart from that, if I was any better I'd be dangerous.
    Are you getting the same weather down there that they are getting at the cricket?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adrian
    English skin + 45 years of Aussie sun = skin cancers. I seem to be spending an inordinate amount of time getting little chunks cut out. Six, a couple of weeks ago and another two next week.
    It's a good way to lose weight but I'd rather not.
    Apart from that, if I was any better I'd be dangerous.
    Are you getting the same weather down there that they are getting at the cricket?

    Yes adrian.

    The weather is beautiful at the moment. We've got clear blue sky and our coastal temperture is around 23c. ( London might be much higher though)
    Keep well.
    woody U.K.

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    Selfish people looking to rort a system do not have extra children to try and get more from that system. Extra kids are too much work, as most will attest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jow104
    Please do not take offence

    but

    What would you have done 50 years ago?

    (You most probably would not have become pregnant. Thats the problem these days)
    no offence taken. would I have still got pregnant 50 years ago - as it was due to contraceptive failure - probably yes ( they did have contraceptives 50 years ago ) and contrary to popular opinion our parents could and frequently did have sex before marriage.

    50 years ago my dad would have probably beaten the **** out of my boyfriend for failing to meet his obligations and society would have felt he richly deserved it. 50 years ago I wouldn't have had a mortgage ( as a female I would have had trouble convincing the bank to lend me the money ) and I would almost certainly have ended up moving back in with my parents.

    Would I have worked. yes. working class women with children have always worked if they wanted bread on the table and either there was no man or he was unable or unwilling to support the family. In the past quite small children were left unattended or in the care of older siblings ( and sometimes came to unfortunate ends ).
    no-one said on their death bed I wish I spent more time in the office!

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    Did they have sex 50 years ago?

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    Default The trail of this thread

    This whole thread is insane both positive and negative comments are both wrong in that if you look at the policy it is not about forcing all single parents into work.
    They say that when the youngest child is at school (6-16) in that time if you are still getting assistance from the Australian people then you need to do a minimum of 15 hour per week of work or work related activity.
    Looking for work
    Training for work.
    Studying for work.
    This is not about as the thread seems to going as to who does and does not have the right to have babies this is about a country that is facing a major labour shortage and how we are going to deal with it in the future.
    At present I work full time and study full time trying to become a design and technology teacher with no children of my own I think it is great that people out there want to have them be they single or coupled.
    How ever if you are getting support from the Australian people then when you become eligible to work a little then that’s good also.
    As for the line of thought some people seem to be having, that people have babies to live off the system. Who cares.
    As a country we are going backwards a alarming rate with the number of available workers and they do have to come from somewhere

    Just my thoughts.

    Regards
    Mark

    Ps good luck to anyone who has children and hopefully thanks for the work.

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