Thread: Domino Jointer

Originally Posted by nt900

It was worth a try.

As a shed in Japan can't be that big, I'd rather not have to sleep standing up. When I was there a couple of years ago it was amazing how small hotel rooms could be, so maybe the shed isn't that bad.

Now I would swap a DOMINO for one of those cool automated toilet seats.

NT, you would swap around 8 x Domino's for one of those dunny seats. They cost $12,000 here, and thats not installed.

Great invention tho. I won't go into details but they do put a smile on your face. I particularly appreciate the little icon that depicts either the male or female genitalia. Press the button and the dunny obliges!

$12K here. Wow! I could hire someone for that money!

Now I think they could use these icons to describe the functions (possibly pressure settings):






:eek:
:mad:

I think I better stop this toilet talk now.

Originally Posted by gregoryq

The thing about the domino is that for making (shallow) mortises on a job site they probably can't be beaten, if such a thing is called for. I see that Festool has an introductory price of $300 ish on a systainer with 1200 loose tenons. I think that the stock is compressed beech, like a traditional biscuit. Discounting the cost of the systainer, the price per tenon is north of $0.25, plus ownership costs.

I wonder if for a hobbyist the beadlock system might be a reasonable alternative, especially since they offer router bits now to mill your own tenon stock. I haven't heard if there are any issues (apart from drilling straight into end grain)

I have a mortising unit on my combi machine, and, using end mills, it performs all of my loose tenon work very well. If I didn't I would consider:


1. Leigh M & T jig
2. Wood Rat (I'm not sure which would be first pick)
3. Domino
4. Router jig using endmills or upcuts
5. One of those dedicated hollow chisel things
6. Beadlock
7. Drill press attachment

As GREG has mentioned there are plenty of options that are vying for for your attention and rightly so given that those options are a lot cheaper than that offered by Festo in the recent relaease of the Domino machine.

I have a leigh and all it's attachments as well as a combo machine..so why go to the expense of a Domino, unless it offered something different and on the basis that I could justify it ...from this point in time I can't tho I have previously sung it's praises and for someone starting out it is probably worthwhile instead of duplicating machines.

I have a couple of Festo tools that I did'nt begrudge paying the hefty price tag because I knew they would stand up to the rigours with which I'd put them thru.

Make no mistake Festo have the rep of producing fine gear and stand by it ..their price alone indicates that with the engineering going into the production of said tools, perhaps the marketing ploy in this country needs reviewing if they wish to approach the volume they have in mind here.


It will be interesting to see how sales here progress with the Domino but I'm guessing it's going to be slow and not the market that Festo perhaps foresaw.
This Forum with it's huge following can provide for a wide and across the board(excuse the pun) hearing on tools and be fair about it.


IF'N I was starting out then this is one tool irrespective of the price tag I'd certainly contemplate because given the options and the name behind it,it certainly has prospects whether or not it moves volumes remains to be seen.


Cheers

I don't suppose it will make any of you feel any better to know that in South Africa we pay at least as high or higher prices for Festool products.
Saw a demo of the Domino outside the local dealer yesterday, thought it great for the kitchen refit. Went into the dealer and gulped at the price but said OK only to be told there was no stock. Will have to wait a few weeks!! Might fall back on the biscuits and just laugh the Domino off.
Great looking piece of kit tho'.

Originally Posted by HoutBok

Might fall back on the biscuits and just laugh the Domino off.

Thats exactly what I did. At the end of the day if you already have a decent biscuit joiner theres no need for the domino, unless you have money burning a hole in your pocket
Cheers. Gary.

I have been lurking on this forum for some little time in between furtive visits to C/T in Balcatta and a couple of other Festool dealers.When I first went to C/T I was told that they had purchased a fair batch of Dominoes as the boss had a hunch that this would be a sure fire tool despite its price tag. I was promised a nice deal based on buying both the Dominoe and the systainer full o' tennons, and I would get my reward points too. Well. having read your post and finally justifying the 'need' for the tool, I popped along today, money in hand and guess what...they've sold out !
I've put my name on one of the next batch, but maybe this gives credence to the stories buzzing about of 11,000 unit sold on launch in Europe [the C/T guys told me that story too...I was a bit sceptical...then]
The C/T guys said they are a bit amazed at the reaction to the tool....
C/T don't give much away at all in the way of discounts, but they have always looked after me on Festool tool prices...not by heaps, but they do give a little on the list price. Perhaps I shouldn't be saying that ??

Lyctus Its not that im doubting your story, but you should ask to see the invoices for the aledged shipment of Dominos that have arived and so speedily departed. Similar stories of sell outs are here in Melbourne as well, and being in the furniture industry and having built up contacts and networking, i have yet to hear of ONE person that has actualy purchased a Domino. Something very strange is going on with the aledged sales and promotion of this tool:confused:

D'oh.....I went into the store with cash in my pocket, I'd seen the stack of Dominoes on the display a week ago, none there and they didn't take my money...I really think they did sell out !!

I was in a specialist dealer yesterday, they had a stack of them seven deep.

On the other hand, they were sold out of the sander that I have had on the wish list for three years and really could have used. (Instead I did the job manually, took a few more hours, but saved $500.00.)

Greg

Originally Posted by gregoryq

(Instead I did the job manually, took a few more hours, but saved $500.00.)

Greg

Polish on....Polish off, wasn't that the movie plot
Bugger hand sanding, too much like hard work

Who knows how to do a poll? Question: If the Domino was <$600 incl box of bits, would it be your next power tool purchase?

What would you get for $600 like a Domino? A GMC knock-off Domino, probably marketed as a 'Mah-Jong' 'No two mortises in the same plane..variety and surprises in your woodwork'... Hold your dosh it can't be too far away.
I'll wait for my Domino thanks !!

Originally Posted by lyctus

What would you get for $600 like a Domino? A GMC knock-off Domino

Thats a silly thing to say. You can easly compare notes on a $1300 Mayfell Duo Dowler to a $80 GMC Dowler, but to compare anything at $600 to $1200 is pointless. $600 will buy a first rate power tool cabable of perfect accuracy under all the tough conditions thrown at it. Its like saying dont buy a $450 Porta cable Plate Jointer because its GMC like compared to a Lamello, just not true. Id love a Duo Dowler but at $1300 forget it. Id love a Domino but at $1200 forget it.

A porta Cable Plate Jointer $400 (of the net) plus the new Kreg K3 at $250 and a nice Panasonic Cordless with the remaining $550 would be a far better way to add to a workshop than a $1200 Morticer

Originally Posted by Lignum

Thats a silly thing to say. .....Id love a Domino but at $1200 forget it.

A porta Cable Plate Jointer $400 (of the net) plus the new Kreg K3 at $250 and a nice Panasonic Cordless with the remaining $550 would be a far better way to add to a workshop than a $1200 Morticer

....yep. The question really is "What can I get for $1200 instead of the Domino?" The answer, whichever route you take, is usually along the lines of "quite a lot, actually"