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Thread: HM46 Z axis Gib screw issue
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4th March 2013, 04:03 PM #1SENIOR MEMBER
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HM46 Z axis Gib screw issue
I have been working on trying to reduce vibrations with my HM46/RF45/MD45 milling machine. Whilst the head went up and down without too much weight, I decided to tighten up the Z gib screw to see if I could reduce some nod. When I tightened the screw I noticed that the screw head is not straight and the gib does not tighten. It seems like the gib strips are too wide to fit the gib screw down behind it. Needless to say I have not been able to tighten the Z back up. I have attached a photo to help convey what I mean. If I tighten it much further I will break the screw. I figure there is some trick to it. Any ideas on how I tighten up the gib?
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4th March 2013, 04:19 PM #2GOLD MEMBER
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The head of the screw is meant to push on the gib, not go behind it.
You need to work out which end of the gib is the thin end, then unscrew the screw on that end and then do up the screw at the thick end.
The two screw just hold the gib between them.
Stuart
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4th March 2013, 05:07 PM #3SENIOR MEMBER
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That makes a lot of sense Stuart (thanks). I had no idea there was another screw. In my mind I pictured it as being tapered and about half the length if the dovetail wedged in there..
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4th March 2013, 06:14 PM #4Dave J Guest
I was going to comment earlier but Stuart covered it all.
While your in there support the head on some blocks of wood on the table and take the gib completely out to give it and the dovetail on either side a clean. A bit of kero in a spray bottle of WD 40 to flush out the crap left in there, and then re oil the lot and adjust it up.
Taking it apart will also give you a better idea how it works and what it looks like. Some times there can be a burr on the gib or screw, so file them off if you see them.
Dave
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4th March 2013, 07:27 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Thanks for the tips Dave. I will pull it apart and give it a good clean. I am a bit disappointed with the whole head setup on these machines. If I gently pull down on the head I can read a good 0.07mm of slop. I guess that is what one gets when the head is only held on with 3 bolts. I am now having dreams of a BM-30A! Unfortunately I need a garage extension to cater for it..
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4th March 2013, 09:06 PM #6Dave J Guest
All you can do is work with what you have. The HM50-52 mills only have 3 bolts as well, one either side and one underneath what where they thinking when they designed it as the one underneath does nothing for holding up the head, LOL
If you go right through it and fix a little of each connection point you will get a lot of it out. The trouble is that these mills and a lot of others are assembled in a dirty factory in China with no care given to cleanliness. Go right through it and clean it all out and there will be a difference.
We would all like a larger mill, but like you said we need to fit it, move it, and then pay for it. The 30 is only the base real knee mill, so where do you stop, LOL
If they took more time in the fitments of these machines would be much better.
Dave
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4th March 2013, 09:09 PM #7GOLD MEMBER
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Hi there,
Due to the weight of the head, it can be difficult to get a "feel" of the tightness of the gibb strip and how the fit is. I would organise an engine crane or other lifting device and completely remove the head, leaving only the Z dovetail mating part. Any adjustments you make will be aesy to gauge and feel. Actually, if you remove the bolt that holds the Z leadscrew nut, then you have the freedom to slide the assembly up and down the Z axis which gives a better appreciation for fit and adjustment.
Cheers,
Simon
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