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    Hello folks, another big thank you to Phil and Marko from another second weekend attendee, who benefited from hours of patient tuition and encouragement. And bad luck Scott, after a long trip home, nothing quite like dropping a bike. Thanks to the fellow students who came with the goal of getting a result, that was a solid 2 days work. Course content and value was unmatched, hand scraping of iron and Phil/Marko's own plastic slideway lining, tryout of machine scraping and frosting, plus bound course book, tip grinding gauge, roll of shop paper and 5 star catering. As we were leaving Phil handed over our scrapers at very reasonable cost, so if you move into online sales for your stuff Phil, please keep us posted. I've dug a drilling vise out from a packing crate to continue scraping the ends of my block of iron. Now starting to look for something along the lines of that vital cup grinding machine with a tilting table. Something like this or a single ended version of this. 6" @ 2850 RPM if that fits the requirements, new or preferably used. Phil, I missed what you mentioned about cup wheel grit size if you have a chance to elaborate. Cheers

    http://au.alibaba.com/product/52166706-Heavy-Duty-Tool-Cutter-Grinder.html

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    I did wonder how you dug those holes on the blocks. I heard you had someone machine them but didn't pick up that they were cnc'd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by .RC. View Post
    Come on now.... Blue it up, the truth is in the spotting...
    When i have some time.....maybe....

    I did spend 5 min running over it with a .0001" indicator, we were only using .01mm on the weekend. At worst it is about .0002" out of parallel.

    Marko's catch phrase for me was "you crusin", of course i was lucky to get a block that was only .005" out of square.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    At worst it is about .0002" out of parallel.
    You better be back here next Saturday young man, 6:45 am. If I've not learnt any thing from Scott over these past few months while we have been cyber connected for 20 - 40 odd hours, thats,

    DETENSION

    Two tenths is kind of 5 microns now days. Did you wash your fingers? Could you still smell it?

    Horror. I only learn't today, that blue shop towell isn't 100 sheets per roll. It's only 55 sheets per roll. So it is no where near 1.8 cents per sheet. Its more like 3 cents per sheet. If you blokes could all forward me 52 cents via paypal, that would be appreciated. *
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    *That was just a joke. I was just about to pull out the soap box on Sunday, but you came good by yourselves. I found the lid left off the blue 3 times early on Sunday, way before morning tea. And not once there after. I'm calling it over dumplinged or over refreshed.

    I cleaned down the plates today, much, much better. I'm not appologising for the email you all got a week ago, or the verbal drilling you got first up Saturday morning. I'm pretty sure we didn't stop to hose down and re-blue a plate

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    Is that what that smell is.......

    Detention hey, careful i might like it.

    You did well to get those blocks out just enough for (most) of us to be able to scrape them true. But hey we can still give you hell about it.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ueee View Post
    But hey we can still give you hell about it.....
    Thats about right. All my mates do that

    Phil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machtool View Post
    I stand by the machining of those blocks, with the exception of Peter Fou's. Allah must hate me. The oldest, wisest, gentel of a man, ended up with the worst block by a country mile. Gus or Keith should have got that.

    Regards Phil.
    Don't feel bad Phil. I've seen Peter's handiwork so I reckon he had a head start !

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    P.S. A special thank you to eskimo for picking my scraper up off the road and returning it to Phil.

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    I didnt want it as it now had a chip out of the handle after coming off the bonnet at 100klicks/hour....lol

    my pleasure Greg...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machtool View Post





    Eskimo ducking for cover from the camera, due to that witness protection / warrant thing.
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    HaHaHa

    I escaped back to SA without incident

    what was I looking for/at?????

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    Phil and Marko

    I agree with every one else above....

    What a fanastic learning curve!..I now know a little about scraping, and hopefully I can now go on to do some really good stuff...like that 3ft camelback I scored a couple yrs ago...and one of donges CI ....

    I really appreciate both your time and efforts in instructing us and especially myself in the art of metal scraping...as someone else said above, the catering was 5 stars.

    A course not to be Missed!

    Thanks again to both of you for your hospitality in teachings.

    Regards
    Richard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machtool View Post
    I cleaned down the plates today, much, much better. I'm not appologising for the email you all got a week ago, or the verbal drilling you got first up Saturday morning. I'm pretty sure we didn't stop to hose down and re-blue a plate
    Although I didn't appreciate it at the time, I probably learnt more from the hits across the back of the head when I was a young apprentice, than any amount of time in trade school. Of course that was back in the day when it wasn't entirely politically incorrect to physically beat the staff, and just so long as it didn't leave permanent damage you were good to go. Sadly by the time I got my chance to be on the dispensing end of the partnership we weren't allowed to do that anymore. There was generally a very good reason behind it, so for the benefit of those of us not blessed with a Master to work under, what was the guts of the message Phil? I'd hate to think I was abusing my kit any more than the results that come off it, and I have nobody here to give me that crack across the back of the head, virtual or otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eskimo View Post
    what was I looking for/at?????
    I think you would have been looking at the levelling adjusters under that plate. It was just coincidence that I snapped that pic at that time.

    Regards.

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    So that's what Eskimo looks like... he's a bit shorter than I was thinking.....


    Will there be another scraping class?-p1010080-jpg

    I see the red square made it onto the granite.... that must mean you ground it square... thanks for that, How close was the granite V block?

    Ray

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machtool View Post
    I think you would have been looking at the levelling adjusters under that plate. It was just coincidence that I snapped that pic at that time.

    Regards.
    could have been looking for RayG?...lol

    yeah I believe your right Phil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dave4 View Post
    I missed what you mentioned about cup wheel grit size if you have a chance to elaborate.
    I meant to show you these on Saturday morning.

    http://www.cutandslice.com.au/specials

    I have a couple of these electroplated diamond disc's here. At $19 bucks each, you wont find cheaper. If you were to make up a double ended grinder like that hone that was sitting on the mill table. Just aluminium hubs. The disc's have a hole in the middle. I'd leave a location spigot. I'm told they just use double sided tape to hold them on.

    A #100 or #180 for shaping, and a #600 or #1200 for honing.

    I'm not sure of grade of diamond in my good wheel. I forwarded the email to you from when I bought it. It was described as an "MD25-M75KN82" I'm guessing that's 2.5 micron and 75% concentration.

    Regards Phil.

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