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Thread: Made a tap
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1st March 2010, 09:48 PM #1
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Made a tap
A few years ago we won a Stihl whipper snipper in a raffle....We already had a Husqvarna one but the Stihl one came with an automatic feed line trimmer.. It is great as the line comes out automatically as it breaks off...
Unfortunately modern Stihl gear is crap...It is a temperamental POS that will not run for any number of reasons, usually fuel related..Unless the fuel has been blessed by a dozen virgins on the summit of Mount Vesuvius the engine simply won't start (we also won a Stihl chainsaw as part of the proze and it has the same problems)
The Husqvarna on the other hand never plays up and I get the impression you could give it crude oil and it would run...
Anyway I wanted to put the auto feed trimmer on the Husky... Of coarse the threads on the ends of the shaft are different...Both are left handed but the Husky is M10X1.25..I did not bother measuring the Stihl thread...
I had to make up a part with a M10X1.25 Left handed thread so it would fit on.... I imagine a suitable tap would be easily available in one of the larger capital cities, but it would probably cost a lot and I have limited use for one...Since the part was going to be made out of aluminium I made a tap out of 4140 steel..
It is not hardened as of yet, but it cut well and has turned out quite good.... I used my recently made indexing collet chuck to index for the flutes and to hold it when making it on the lathe....These ER40 collet chucks are coming in very handy....
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1st March 2010, 10:02 PM #2
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Well done!
Jordan
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1st March 2010, 10:07 PM #3
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Great stuff. I have many stihl brushcutters, had a couple of Huskies, and also have a few Shindaiwa's. All have their pros and cons ( I have a weed control and landscaping company)
All have different thread sizes, and a couple both have 10 mm, but different pitches. Very annoying. They charge a fortune for replacement bolts. So if you could make a die, it would be very handy as well. I would be surprised if you could get L.H taps and dies that easily, certainly not cheaply.
Can you tell us how you did it.?
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1st March 2010, 10:10 PM #4
Nice work RC
Must say I'm surprised about your comments about the Stihl stuff. Like you I have a Stihl chainsaw as well as a Stihl brush cutter. Both are the easiest starting pieces of equipment I have ever owned.
Don't ask me about the MTD lawn mower with the B&S engine though
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1st March 2010, 10:37 PM #5
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Sure.. I started with a piece of 4140 steel, I centre drill one end and turned it down to 10mm... I then turned the shank down to the thread depth diameter... Then it is time to cut the square on the end of the shank...I used the ER40 dividing chuck to index the tap...
Back into the lathe (have to use 4 jaw chuck or an accurate collet chuck here to get minimal runout) and I them proceeded to cut the thread with the leadscrew running backwards (feeding away from the headstock) As my lathe has an Imperial leadscrew I had to reverse the motor at the end of the cut to get back to the start.. I then turned the top slide round to four degrees and cut a taper on the end although I could have done this before I cut the thread..
Once the thread is cut to size and you have done the taper, back into the collet dividing head and on the mill get an end mill over the centre line of the thread.. I then moved it another 0.5mm to give it a cutting rake...I guessed this figure as I did not feel like doing some geometry at that point in the afternoon..It seems to have have suitable rake.... Index four times cutting as you go..
That's how I did it...It just seemed the logical way to proceed, i have not made a tap before and just mostly did what looked right...
Then off to the belt grinder and I carefully backed off the flutes along the tapered portion only..
If I was going to harden it, I would coat it with soap first as this will stop scale..then heat it with an LPG burner (oxy is way too hot) until it becomes non-magnetic and hold there for a short while then dunk in cold water....Tempering may be required but 4140 does not seem to get that hard and brittle, unlike something like 1045..
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1st March 2010, 10:44 PM #6
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Neat job I agree about the Stihl stuff, I had so much trouble with the last Stihl line trimmer I took it to the Stihl agent and told them I no longer wanted it and left it on the counter.
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3rd March 2010, 03:21 PM #7
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Great work, I'd seen odd size right hand taps made before but never a lefty! Oh yeah, my Dolmar line trimmer starts everytime regardless of what I feed it
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