Thread: Whisperings

Originally Posted by Bryan

Phil, quit teasing and show us a pic of the new bearing segment!

still no new bearing Bryan. I had to carefully fix the old segment which is full of hairline fractures as well.

Phil

Hi Phil,

Congratulations on the new arrival, after a bit of searching I found references to Servian Capstan Lathes, they were for a time in Sydney Road Brunswick, then later in the early 1950's in Albert Street Brunwick, Looks like you've scored a winner..

Bit of a welcome step up from the Bantam...


Regards
Ray

PS.. Pleased to see you didn't lift it using the headstock...

Stonking!

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Phil,

Congratulations on the new arrival, after a bit of searching I found references to Servian Capstan Lathes, they were for a time in Sydney Road Brunswick, then later in the early 1950's in Albert Street Brunwick, Looks like you've scored a winner..

Bit of a welcome step up from the Bantam...


Regards
Ray

PS.. Pleased to see you didn't lift it using the headstock...

No way would I lift that 4 ton beast by the (hollow) headstock spindle Ray.
Only thing is the learned folk at the other end where it came from wrapped a chain just behind the chuck and another one that managed to crush the feed screw lead screw and control bar against the bed.
Sometimes you have to wonder
Bryan, I think the word is 'Uberstonking'.

Phil

Hi Phil,

Here's an advert for Servian from the Argus August 20 1952



They appear to do a bit of second hand machinery dealing, as well as their drill presses and other stuff, but lathes don't appear to feature at all...

I wonder if Servian rebadged it? If so who actually made it?

Just wild guesses...

Regards
Ray

Made by UberStonking GMBH Brunswick Germany Perhaps....

Phil, where on earth did all the extra floor space come from? The last time I was there, you couldn't get your foot in the door. We were climbing over old bits of junk covered in FLIGHT RUST!

Well done,

Kennearth

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Phil,

Here's an advert for Servian from the Argus August 20 1952



They appear to do a bit of second hand machinery dealing, as well as their drill presses and other stuff, but lathes don't appear to feature at all...

I wonder if Servian rebadged it? If so who actually made it?

Just wild guesses...

Regards
Ray

Made by UberStonking GMBH Brunswick Germany Perhaps....

I don't think it has been rebadged Ray but like you I have found very little on the Servian lathes on the net. So, the search shall continue. There must be something out there.

Originally Posted by neksmerj

Phil, where on earth did all the extra floor space come from? The last time I was there, you couldn't get your foot in the door. We were climbing over old bits of junk covered in FLIGHT RUST!

Well done,

Kennearth

Hi Ken,
It took me 3 days to create that hole. It's amazing how creative you can get when it's for a good cause.
"old bits of junk" should read Heritage equipment...pffft, who am I kidding. It is mostly junk. Could be time to get the 'Big' broom out.

Phil

Hi Phil,
You sure got the beauty and the beast today.
The're going to have to get you working night shift soon if they dont stop it. I guess the main problem isn't just whipping up and new bearing and dropping it in, you need to line the thing back up first right??

Still, a nice big lathe to cheer you up

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Hi Phil,
You sure got the beauty and the beast today.
The're going to have to get you working night shift soon if they dont stop it. I guess the main problem isn't just whipping up and new bearing and dropping it in, you need to line the thing back up first right??

Still, a nice big lathe to cheer you up

Stuart

HI Stuart,
They are intimating this job will take three months. When we told them to do it right is going to take at least twelve months they nearly fell over. The main support timbers have to come out so we can level and align properly. Doesn't sound too hard until you realise there is no access to get a crane in there to lift the engine off those timbers. We are going to have to make a hanging frame over the engine and suspend the engine off that. Problem with that is, there is nowhere to stand the hanging frame on other than the foundation block in between the engine frame. This makes a high gantry with a not so wide foot. Precarious but not impossible.
You are right Stuart, the bearing is the easiest part but no good putting a new one in until the engine is back in alignment. I am looking forward to this challenge.
When it all gets too much I can just go and have a look at my new lathe...beastWoo Hoo

Phil

Hi Phil thought you'd gone on holidays missed reading the updates

Nice old/new toy a bit of a clean up prior going in would have been an idea that floor will be all dirty once that starts.


Reading back to check I had seen what I saw in a photo and yep skyhooks (not the group) were used to install but no roof back then.

Why couldn't a benevolent crane co be seconded for a period to raise the mighty wheel place it on blocks till work is done, raisng the roof seems a cheap option. Would this not cut the time down some what if all was in place to get the work done.

Originally Posted by RayG

Hi Phil,

Here's an advert for Servian from the Argus August 20 1952



They appear to do a bit of second hand machinery dealing, as well as their drill presses and other stuff, but lathes don't appear to feature at all...

I wonder if Servian rebadged it? If so who actually made it?

Just wild guesses...

Regards
Ray

Made by UberStonking GMBH Brunswick Germany Perhaps....

Servian imported equipment made in the old Soviet bloc states. It's likley Polish or Russian, maybe East German but I'd bet Polish.

Nice score regardless.

PDW

That should keep you out of mischief for a while, getting her cleaned up and on the road again. It looks like a 2 Threads per inch leadscrew too, if so that'll make screwing a good many of the imperial threads easy, drop it in anywhere.

Did a 4 jaw come with it?, I'd imagine that most of your work is odd bods that need a 4 jaw. Four jaws are on mine just about all the time, even when I just wish the 3 was on sometimes.

Cheers.

If I'm not right, then I'm wrong, I'll just go bend some more bananas.

Originally Posted by wheelinround

Hi Phil thought you'd gone on holidays missed reading the updates

Nice old/new toy a bit of a clean up prior going in would have been an idea that floor will be all dirty once that starts.


Reading back to check I had seen what I saw in a photo and yep skyhooks (not the group) were used to install but no roof back then.

Why couldn't a benevolent crane co be seconded for a period to raise the mighty wheel place it on blocks till work is done, raisng the roof seems a cheap option. Would this not cut the time down some what if all was in place to get the work done.

Hi Wheelin'
Hopefully I won't make too much mess. I feel some heavy duty drop sheets may be the order of the day
The engine in your pic is the latest engine installed, about 4 years ago. The one I have to work on has been there about 30 years. It is the Ruston Proctor engine and its house has been heavily built around since then and so no access for a crane. It just makes it more of a challenge

Originally Posted by Log

That should keep you out of mischief for a while, getting her cleaned up and on the road again. It looks like a 2 Threads per inch leadscrew too, if so that'll make screwing a good many of the imperial threads easy, drop it in anywhere.

Did a 4 jaw come with it?, I'd imagine that most of your work is odd bods that need a 4 jaw. Four jaws are on mine just about all the time, even when I just wish the 3 was on sometimes.

Cheers.

If I'm not right, then I'm wrong, I'll just go bend some more bananas.

Hi Log,
I haven't measued the leadscrew yet but I don't think you are far off with your guesstimate. She came with a 4 jaw and faceplate and a driving plate. About the only sort of major thing I have noticed on it is the cross slide screw has been shortened by a couple of inches so it looks like more work for my acme screwcutting tool measuring gauge. At least it makes all the work involved in making the damn gauge seem kinda' worthwhile now.

Originally Posted by PDW

Servian imported equipment made in the old Soviet bloc states. It's likley Polish or Russian, maybe East German but I'd bet Polish.

Nice score regardless.

PDW

Hi PDW,
Thanks for that, at least I now have a different direction to search.

Phil

Hi all,
this piece of something came with the lathe and having never seen anything like it, I tried to find out what it does. Would it be a support for the lead and feed screws as it seems to be the only place it fits. Also is there anything I should know about using it. It doesn't have any facilities to clamp it to the bed.

Phil