Thread: Workshop Practice Series books

Originally Posted by Anorak Bob

Drilling or boring I would imagine.

If you are asking what the casting is Jordan, I've have no idea. Maybe one of the model engineering aficionardos may be able to identify it.

Bob.

Thanks Bob, got it now.

Jordan

I ordered this book by Harold Hall a little while ago

Metal Lathe for Home Machinists : Harold Hall : 9781565236936

I needn't have bothered as it is identical, chapter for chapter, to his book in the Workshop Practice Series, which I already own.

Lathework: A Complete Course (Workshop Practice) : Harold Hall : 9781854862303

Oh well, fool me once....................................

Hi,

I bought:

Metalwork and Machining Hints and Tips
Bearings
Useful Workshop Tools

all Workshop series from The Book Depository for less than $30.00 delivered.
Should be some interesting reading.

Ben

Ben I'll be interested to know what you think of the bearings book. I was disappointed. From memory it fails to mention precision classes or clearance ratings. A good example of the narrow focus on model engineering which has put me off the series.

Fred that's unfortunate. Maybe you could pass one of them on and recoup some cost?

I run hot and cold on the workshop practice series - the earlier ones are good although a little dated in places. However, somewhere in the early 30s the emphasis seems to have gone from providing good concise references to selling books through a name or two, even at the expense of repeating material. At one stage I subscribed to MEW and I can recall a good portion of the material that was in MEW ending up in WPS books - same author. I wouldn't mind so much if the material was top notch stuff, but the information (at least in the later books) seems pretty average to me.

Michael

Thanks for the heads up Fred, I'm used to a fair bit of repeating from one book to another, but the whole book with a different name is a bit much.

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Thanks for the heads up Fred, I'm used to a fair bit of repeating from one book to another, but the whole book with a different name is a bit much.

Stuart

Yes, same chapters, same text, same photos, but a different title and cover.

Not really economical to offer it to someone else as the postage will probably cost as much as the whole book including postage is only $10 from the UK, I paid $12.50 !

Originally Posted by Big Shed

Yes, same chapters, same text, same photos, but a different title and cover.

Not really economical to offer it to someone else as the postage will probably cost as much as the whole book including postage is only $10 from the UK, I paid $12.50 !

and the publisher would be one of the first to yell and scream if the book copyright was infringed.....!!!

so why feel guilty when we obtain or copy copyrighted books and distribute freely to all those who want

Originally Posted by eskimo

and the publisher would be one of the first to yell and scream if the book copyright was infringed.....!!!

so why feel guilty when we obtain or copy copyrighted books and distribute freely to all those who want

That's the interesting part Eskimo, the WSPS version was published by SI Model Books Ltd, this latest version is published by Fox Chapel Publishing.

It looks like Mr Hall has changed publishers and is now selling his books under a different title to supplement his retirement income.

Fox Chapel is also publishing some other volumes that look suspiciously like Workshop Practice Series books, Mini Lathe for Home Machinists by Dave Fenner looks like one of them

http://www.bookdepository.co.uk/Mini.../9781854862549

Mini-Lathe for Home Machinists

Originally Posted by Big Shed

That's the interesting part Eskimo, the WSPS version was published by SI Model Books Ltd, this latest version is published by Fox Chapel Publishing.

It looks like Mr Hall has changed publishers and is now selling his books under a different title to supplement his retirement income.

Fox Chapel is also publishing some other volumes that look suspiciously like Workshop Practice Series books, Mini Lathe for Home Machinists by Dave Fenner looks like one of them

The Mini-lathe (Workshop Practice) : David Fenner : 9781854862549

Mini-Lathe for Home Machinists

bigger crooks than Ned Kelly

Does is say anything in the front about when it was copyrighted? Surely you cant just change the name and call it a new work?(not that it really matters copyright wise)

You could try adding a review to warn others.

I didnt know the book deposiory has free ebooks, one for the woodies
Woodwork Joints (Illustrated Edition) (Dodo Press) : Unknown : 9781409934097

Stuart

Originally Posted by Stustoys

Does is say anything in the front about when it was copyrighted? Surely you cant just change the name and call it a new work?(not that it really matters copyright wise)

You could try adding a review to warn others.

I didnt know the book deposiory has free ebooks, one for the woodies
Woodwork Joints (Illustrated Edition) (Dodo Press) : Unknown : 9781409934097

Stuart

The main copyright notice on the inside of the book is:

Copyright 2012 by Harold Hall and Fox Chapel Publishing

Underneath that is: First published in the UK by Special Interest Model Books, 2003

There is no mention anywhere of Lathe Work - Workshop Practice Series

I may add a review on the Book Depository website, but it will probably be deleted.

It seems ironic that publishers of books, and other media, are very quick to try and protect their copyright, but not so scrupulous in representing the goods they sell.
A notice on the front of the book with a reference to the original name would have been the right thing to do, but would cost them a lot of sales to suckers such as myself.

I realise I only paid $12.50 for this book, but it is the "principle" of the thing that sticks in my craw.

The plot thickens...
Fox Chapel is a US company, and Special Interest Books is UK. I'm thinking that Fox Chapel bought the US (or maybe world) rights from SIB, hence the republishing under a different title. I'm betting if you were in the UK you could only get the SIB version locally. However, the internet book suppliers (book depository et al) can get both.

Michael

Thanks to Fred for tipping us off

I was going to buy that latest Hall book ,but I already have his earlier volume , the same book in a different guise

I read through the Spindles book. To my novice eyes, its very well written and I learnt how to make an internal Morse taper from this booklet . The author is well aware of his audience being beginners . We must remember that these books are not aimed at the experienced machinist, some stuff is left out that would only confuse learners MIKE