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    Fred

    Nice work

    I would like to ask you the same questions I asked Amos on his thread. Why are you into the kitless fad??? What is it that drives you to do these as opposed to kit or component pens??? Is the creativety greater in these than the other style pens. I just can't wrap my head around the kitless craze. I guess it is not for everyone but I am trying to understand the mad push these days for kitless. Are we digressing back to the old days of pen makers. Blingless. Is this the trend of buyers out there??

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    • If you gotta ask, you'll never know.
      • Armstrong's reported response to the question "What is jazz?" (Exact wording varies.)


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    JTT, for me it is the desire for creativity and skill, at the moment though it is trying to get the skill,-I reckon Fred already has that! and he can be more creative. As to whether customers want that I do not know, for me it is trying to get satisfaction from it all. I still love the kit pens, nothing against them, hope that explains just a little bit, Amos
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    • If you gotta ask, you'll never know.
      • Armstrong's reported response to the question "What is jazz?" (Exact wording varies.)

    Well Fred, that is the same answer you gave on the other site so I will respond with my same reply. If I had to try everything I was curious about I would never sleep. Good luck with your kitless journey.

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    Perfectly executed Fred. Looks wonderful

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTTHECLOCKMAN View Post
    Well Fred, that is the same answer you gave on the other site so I will respond with my same reply. If I had to try everything I was curious about I would never sleep. Good luck with your kitless journey.
    Yes John, it is the same answer to the same question asked in 3 different places.

    Thank you for your good wishes, I hope I will enjoy my journey as I hope you will enjoy yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Yes John, it is the same answer to the same question asked in 3 different places.

    Thank you for your good wishes, I hope I will enjoy my journey as I hope you will enjoy yours.

    Thats funny Fred. I only asked this question here and on The Pen Shop site. On the other site I made it a general question as to here I asked 2 people individually. One was kind enough to answer and you chose this. If I offended you in any way I am sorry.

    Someday I may get enough money together and get some taps and dies and give it a try. I will be sure to post my findings. Thanks.

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    Yes John, that makes it 3 the same questions in 3 different places.

    And no, you didn't offend me, I just saw your question as rather condescending with terms such as "fad" and "craze".

    I don't "get" why lots of people do things, doesn't mean I have to be condescending and tell them "I just don't get why you are doing that", then do it in 3 different place just to make sure that these people "get" you.

    So, I stand by my answer, "If you've got ask, you''ll never know.

    In another place you made the point the you would never get in to this as you couldn't afford a metal lathe, the associated tooling or have the room in the shed. Perhaps that drove your question, however all of the above can be done on your wood lathe as has been shown in several good tutorials on the subject.

    Perhaps you didn't read those as they were about a "fad" or a "craze"?

    Some people are happy to make pens with kits, I have done so and will continue to do so, but some people like a bit more of a challenge. I started on this path when I bought my metal lathe some years ago, I like to make my own tooling and my own blanks. Others are satisfied with buying all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big Shed View Post
    Yes John, that makes it 3 the same questions in 3 different places.

    And no, you didn't offend me, I just saw your question as rather condescending with terms such as "fad" and "craze".

    I don't "get" why lots of people do things, doesn't mean I have to be condescending and tell them "I just don't get why you are doing that", then do it in 3 different place just to make sure that these people "get" you.

    So, I stand by my answer, "If you've got ask, you''ll never know.

    In another place you made the point the you would never get in to this as you couldn't afford a metal lathe, the associated tooling or have the room in the shed. Perhaps that drove your question, however all of the above can be done on your wood lathe as has been shown in several good tutorials on the subject.

    Perhaps you didn't read those as they were about a "fad" or a "craze"?

    Some people are happy to make pens with kits, I have done so and will continue to do so, but some people like a bit more of a challenge. I started on this path when I bought my metal lathe some years ago, I like to make my own tooling and my own blanks. Others are satisfied with buying all that.
    OK Fred. Sorry again for the wording.

    By the way you have some funny math over there.

    1---Asked here
    + 1--Asked at The Pen Shop
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    2 total

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    Quote Originally Posted by JTTHECLOCKMAN View Post
    OK Fred. Sorry again for the wording.

    By the way you have some funny math over there.

    1---Asked here
    + 1--Asked at The Pen Shop
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    2 total
    Nothing funny with our or my math John

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    https://www.woodworkforums.com/f69/ce...2/#post1468010

    = 3

    I didn't says forums, I said places.

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