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Thread: Whahoooo!! Doncha love it!!
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15th May 2006, 05:49 PM #1
Whahoooo!! Doncha love it!!
Well yous blokes know that
a) till a couple of months ago Id never even turned a lathe on
b) till a couple of weeks ago Id never turned a pen
c) Im still a bloody novice and really have no friggin idea what the blazes Im doin
And knowing that you also know
a) that Im a cheeky sod
b) believe Im an arty pharty old phart
So there I was the other day makin me 20 somthin pen getting quite the daring do I am to even if I do say so meself when me daughters fiance rocks up and says "Hey dad you want to sell one of them?" well aside from my first inital reaction of rollin about phissin meself at the thought that someone would be so far off their rockers to actually want to buy one I asked "yeah why not?" dead set the young fella says "Well name a price and I think Ive got one sold for you" at this point I fell of me moanin chair onto me date takin me cuppa with me proptly sloshin it all over meself and the banksia blank Iwas muckin with when he threw that one at me "YER WAT?" "Yeah one of me aunts saw the pens you gave me an Lukas and wants one but wants to pay you for it" now as is me want in situations like this I cussed the gods that didnt give me a friggin clue about pricings and such and just said "Look mate tell me what she wants and I'll make it" but he persisted so I responded like so "Well Ben me boy pick a figure double it then times it by 10 and that will do hows that?" He smiled "so about 50 do you" 50? For a bloody pen thats cost me what about $3 in parts some scrap and all up about an hour to turn out? "TOO FRIGGIN RITE IT WILL DO!!"
Anyways make a long story short he got back to me later that night and said she wants a tuart one nice straight one no bumps (this refers to the more daring do types Im presently muckin with" can you have it done by lunch tomorrow?" So first I told him to get her to think a bit more about the wood she wants tuarts bloody bland as hell and I then went on to tell him of the many differnt types of wood I had to make her the sweetest finested beatilishus pen she ever dreamed of he went quiet for a minute or two tellin his aunt what I was sayin but it came back "definantly Tuart"
So yesty I barreled full steam ahead into the shed and knocked up the finest Tuart pen ever created... went beautifully it did
And now Im the proud arty pharty sold by commision artist type old phart Ive always wanted to be!! Whaaaaaaaaaahooo!!
Pic in a wee whileBelieve me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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15th May 2006, 06:03 PM #2
Dang! I am happy to have sold any pens (even if I haven't seen any of the money - it went to Ian007's son's school). I have also swapped a pen (or in the process of it).
$50 for a basic pen is a VERY good price.
I too hate the question, what do you think is about right... :confused:
Mind you, my latest pens are getting pretty good and I am thinking that I should start looking for a way to get some of the money back.
Cam (who definitely prefers the simple lines on a pen rather than the bumpy looking ones).<Insert witty remark here>
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15th May 2006, 06:26 PM #3Originally Posted by Wlid DingoHave a nice day - Cheers
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15th May 2006, 06:37 PM #4
An hours work in total less the cost of materials, $50.00 is a fair trade.
I make Lame's for the baking game, the things that put the slash in the top of a loaf of bread, I get $5.00 each for 1/2 hours work less $0.40 for the stainless blade and $0.20 for the stainless screws. Bloody plastic imports are shirt and most blokes won't use them but they keep the price down.
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15th May 2006, 07:38 PM #5
Executive summary: "Dingo sold a pen"
Well done Dingo, first of many such (cash) sales I hope!
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15th May 2006, 10:25 PM #6
Dingo you got to give that young fella some credits mate. He is going to make a fine son-in-law. A bloke who is able to spend $50 for a pen just to please his future farter in law got to be a good one.
Sell one to him for $500 and see what he will do. If he is for real he will pay up no worries.
CheersVisit my website at www.myFineWoodWork.com
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15th May 2006, 10:27 PM #7
Well translated groggy
Yes a real life sale!! Friggin amazed the hell outta me I can tell you From time to time over the years people have asked me what I want for something Ive made but Ive never actually sold something before my preference has always been to give away what I make... PREVIOUSLY... now I KNOW that people WILL actually pay me to make something... well... sorta changes the picture somewhat eh!!
So anyway which one and what others did I make? well here we go
The Tuart at the top was worth $50... mmmm wonder what someone would pay for the Huon Pine or Jarrah ones with the bumbs? :eek:Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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15th May 2006, 11:32 PM #8
They are nice pens. I recently sold thirteen as part of the forum fundraiser, I discovered that, in general, people want fairly plain shapes, but are willing to experiment with colour and designs. At least the guys and gals I sold to.
cheers
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16th May 2006, 10:28 AM #9
In my experience, mostly the bumps are there for the turner's pleasure, not the buyer's...
I prefer the smooth pens as they are more functional (and look better in my opinion too).
Cam<Insert witty remark here>
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16th May 2006, 11:32 AM #10
Sigh... Well then
Why do you make fun designs? ala the closed end pen... design being a part of function or the other way round while I agree that most people have a preference for the straight slimline "normal" type pen simply I think because theyre comfortable with that style having been bought up with it... "the bumps are there mostly for the turners pleasure" mmm interesting yes I suppose I enjoyed making it but I think its more a safety zone thing... once held the pen is actually more comfortable than the slimline to use the HuonPine one is particularily more comfortable for some reason... however I also personally prefer the slimline style
See Cam ol son I believe YOU were the one to start me rockin an rolling with these bumpywumpy ones!!Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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16th May 2006, 11:36 AM #11
I'd say- here's one of mine, done just to see if I could. (On a GMC lathe, with the pen mandrel mounted in a drillchuck that had been scavenged from a broken $15 drill, which in turn was held in a 4 jaw $35 chuck).
(Apologies if I have posted these pics before - can't remember!)"Clear, Ease Springs"
www.Stu's Shed.com
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16th May 2006, 12:35 PM #12
Nice pen Stuart.
Close ended pens are something of a fashion amongst pen turners I think... Most customers probably don't know the extra work that goes into them. As for why I did one, to see if I could. Also, as an aside, it makes for a very light and comfortable pen (and displays the end grain on the pen).
As for bumpy pens, I don't think that I have actualy done many/any? That being said, some work and some don't. I think that I hold the pen too hard to put up with bumps near the tip, but turning a ring on the tail end like Stuart's, well that is just cool...
Maybe it has more to do with function for me. I also like smooth lines and generally don't like something that is overly "tizzed up". For instance, knives, I like smooth lines with traditional shape. The ones that have all kinds of curves (often called fantasy knives) simply don't do it for me.
I prefer to let the beauty come of the material with simple designs. That being said, I have no problem with other turners doing their thing and adding embellishments - they just are not my cuppa tea...<Insert witty remark here>
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16th May 2006, 12:39 PM #13
Damn yous jokers!!! :mad: Friggin heck just as I get into the swing of gettin them knobby things sorted some friggin gits gotta get smartassed and throw up one with a ring on the bloody thing!! look mates Im a simple fella from the bush tossin things like that at me without an explaination is... well... its just not cricket ol chap!
So you didnt say if you liked it or not? see now if you could make that ring outta say Karri or some darker wood wouldnt that look the ducks knuts? cause it would!! So comeone you mad git Stuart howd you do it... or is it yet another of those hidden secrets of the mysterious lathe turners society
AND!!! I want to know about this "club" that you were inducted into by the world renown RuffyRustic... another secret society? bloody ell you mob!!! its becomin more insular here than many a yachty club!!!Believe me there IS life beyond marriage!!! Relax breathe and smile learn to laugh again from the heart so it reaches the eyes!!
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16th May 2006, 01:15 PM #14
Heh - glad you liked it. Glad no real turners have seen it (yet) - as I am a rank amateur. Watched a video which showed spindle turning and thought it looked cool, so decided to try it. This is about my 10th pen ever so don't look too closely (and GMC lathe don't forget).
Dingo - how would you get a darker ring to fit? The ring is not removable - it was turned in place all out of the same lump of wood! (Apple btw)
As to how it's done - in terms I can understand - I made 3 raised areas and then slowly undercut the middle one from either side until it broke free. Not sure how others do it, but I took a very cheap lathe chisel and ground it to a much sharper tip than usual so it could get right in under the ring as it formed."Clear, Ease Springs"
www.Stu's Shed.com
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16th May 2006, 01:24 PM #15Originally Posted by CameronPotter"Clear, Ease Springs"
www.Stu's Shed.com
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