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  1. #1
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    Default Hmmmmm....dunno?!?!

    I tried to do this shape a couple of months ago and ended up with a really crappy lookin' plate after I got a bit over-zealous with the hollowing
    Had another go with this chunk of Silver Oak and now I'm wondering if I shouldn't have stuck with the plate Waddayareckin? Does it work?? (be brutal if you must )

    1st time I've worked the Silver Oak - thought it would be similar to Silky but turns out to be more like Beefwood - yuk! Form is about 190 x 80mm, couple of coats of Danish and some extreme cheating for the 'ebonizing' (flat black spray can ). The grain and color inside was very ordinary so it got the blackening treatment as well to give it that bottomless feel.
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    I'm ambivalent about the inside blackening. But the outside "ebonizing" might work better with gloss, and extending down to the body of the bowl so it looks like a separate collar. Might need some sanding to enhance the gloss finish if needed. Otherwise, the form looks good.

    Joe
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    Looks good to me!
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    I like it... both form and finish... absolutely beautiful timber!
    Kinda like Joe on the top treatment... but it would have been quite a trick, getting the ebonizing to go down to the bowl, without staining the bowl too. I first thought it was a reflection of the bowl in the paint... then I re-read 'flat'.
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    Vern,

    Hmmm, probably go with Joe on this one. I probably would have had the dark lip smoother.

    I have done the dark inside before and it works well, I used a matt finish to give it the endless inky depth feeling...sort of


    Otherwise good shape and great looking peice of timber.
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    I think the photos do not show the real form.

    The background is too dark.

    Any way to take some photos with a different background.
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    looks fine to me , nice form. love the ebonising and texture to the top.thats my uneducated opinion .bob

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    Thumbs up Hmm.... dunno.

    I know. I like the shape! the timber is beautiful but I appreciate tour comments re Beefwood. I know that if I get a piece of it that I'll be in for a hard thyme.I would have taken the ebonizing down to the bowl top 2. Would have looked even better with a separately turned an inserted dark ring.
    Still, very,very nice.

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    G'day TTit

    I like the overall shape and a nice piece of wood. Agree perhaps a seperate collar, but feel you would then lose the continuation of overall shape if the black was extended. But then what would I know, still learning!

    Cheers
    Bernie

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    I reckon you should save the spectacular timber for platters, particularly if it is difficult to work.

    I like the piece in general BUT... if I had done it, I would not have made to opening as high above the shoulders. The height of the lip is fine but the slope on the top surface would look better if it was a bit shallower.

    Nice photography.
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    very nice
    has a oriental look to me.
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    Thanks for the comments one and all. 2 reasons I didn't carry the blackening over rim - 1st because I didn't want it to look like a collar which, in hindsight, was pretty stupid as it was the 1st thing noticed and 2nd because it was easier to mask that way - rubber band over a piece of paper with a hole cut in it
    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    I like the piece in general BUT... if I had done it, I would not have made to opening as high above the shoulders. The height of the lip is fine but the slope on the top surface would look better if it was a bit shallower.
    Reckon you're probably right there Cliff - I was too busy listening to the wood again - that slope actually follows the medullary out both sides - t'was a very dull bit of wood without that showing
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Carroll View Post
    I think the photos do not show the real form.

    The background is too dark.

    Any way to take some photos with a different background.
    First try on my ebay black velvet - will do some back on the white drop tonight.
    Quote Originally Posted by joe greiner View Post
    I'm ambivalent about the inside blackening. But the outside "ebonizing" might work better with gloss, and extending down to the body of the bowl so it looks like a separate collar. Might need some sanding to enhance the gloss finish if needed. Otherwise, the form looks good.

    Joe
    Points noted Joe. Sometimes let my own tastes get in the way of what others see to be appealing - just not a gloss man when it comes down to it.
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    I don't go for gloss either.
    Try putting a clear satin finish over the black to give it some dept without going glossy.
    Cliff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    I don't go for gloss either.
    Try putting a clear satin finish over the black to give it some dept without going glossy.
    It actually got a wipe of Danish for that very reason Cliff Great minds and all that
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    Vern,
    No need for brutal, I think it looks quite fine, and like p.t.c, a bit oriental. If it is any help, I ran your pics thru Photoshop and re-attached them here. Of course, I have no way to know if it looks like this in real life, but still, I would like to have it in my collection. I really like the textured rim and satin inside! If you do not like the touched up pics, let me know so I can remove them.

    -- Wood Listener--

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