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12th April 2008, 09:00 AM #1
SAFE heating in the woodturner's garage?
Hello All,
With winter fast approaching I'm again faced with the dilemma of having my fingers go numb from the cold or putting my turning on a hiatus again. Neither of which I would like to have happen.
I have thought of different ways to stay warm in the garage but have serious concerns about the amount of wood dust in the air that I think could work its way into a heater and potentially be combustible.
My main concern is my hands, if I could have a blow heater directed at them I can rug up the rest of my body, but most of those little heaters have coils/elements. There lies my concern about wood dust in the air.
I've thought of maybe an oil column heater, but they are more of a radiant heat, and I've got a large garage, plus at 2,000-4,000 watts they like to chew up electricity bills.
I could get a wood stove, but exhaust would be an issue and I suspect my lathe wouldn't appreciate me feeding flames with what is rightfully the lathe's property...
So I would like to ask what heating solutions people have in their workshops and if my concerns about wood dust are warranted/valid.
Apologies if this has been discussed but I did try a quick search without luck.
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12th April 2008, 09:04 AM #2
Toasty Mate in Winton when I turned in the cold at night in Winton I used a little fan heater with no problem. I just kept an eye on it and it was my best freind in there. I could be wrong. I look forward to others supply. I had mine in front of me not behind the lathe. if that matters
bye TOni
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12th April 2008, 09:25 AM #3human termite
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i also use a fan heater on the floor behind me on the two cold days we get a year up here in queensland,or i just dont turn for two days ....bob
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12th April 2008, 09:31 AM #4
hey Toasty. I'm in the same boat this arriving winter, its already down to round 14-16c in my shed thru the day & come the depths of winter i'll be lucky if it gets over 8c in the shed. I've got an old wood heater that i plan to install before much longer. But the fire issue is a bit of a worry. Just what sort of risk is there in having a wood heater running while we are woodworking?
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12th April 2008, 09:41 AM #5
I suspect a low risk, particularly if it was a closed combustion heater/stove type of setup. The external of the stove would have to get seriously hot to cause wood dust to combust on the surface. I was more taking the about my lathe not being happy that would would be fed into the stove instead of on the lathe
Electric heaters that feature coils is where my concern is, mainly because I think one of those little bathroom units would be perfect pointed at my hands like Toni said. With the coils you know the type, they glow red like the old heaters from years ago in everyone's living room that had the foil reflective backing plate and caused houses to burn down because people dried their clothes too close to them.
It's the dust that would settle after a turning session that worries me (maybe uneccassarily?) and the next time I would go to the garage the coils would heat up the surface layer of dust on them and possibly catch fire. Where there is sawdust and shavings everwhere it is not something I want to experiment with.
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12th April 2008, 11:45 AM #6
I had a small homemade combustion fireplace in one of my old garages and it use to get covered with dust and never once had a problem, didn't need much in it either as you only want to take the chill out of the air not warm up the workshop otherwise you get to warm.
Cheers
DJ
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12th April 2008, 11:55 AM #7
exellent news, now all i gotta do is get done with painting the house & i can get back to my woodworking. Only 3 more days painting to go (providing the weather is kind to me). woot woot!
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12th April 2008, 12:18 PM #8Senior Member
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Toasty
This is my solution.
A sawdusd burner outside the shed with a Tube over the burner and flue and an Exhaust fan in reverse to draw cold air in over the combustion chamber and flue to pick up heat and then blow the warm air inside.
woodcutta
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12th April 2008, 01:52 PM #9
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12th April 2008, 02:59 PM #10
Here is a soulution that is used in the states all the time in the building industry for carpentry when building houses in the snow they seal off the open windows and walls with plastic then let this rip it basicaly works like a big blow torch but saw dust is now bother to it for it blows it away from it before it gets close and just keep it a distance from where you are working and it is very toasty but this one is for sale in oz. http://www.oztion.com.au/buy/auction...pe4=&type5=&s=
Watch out he bites!
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12th April 2008, 04:56 PM #11GOLD MEMBER
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For that sort of money I would get a small reverse cycle air conditioner, it would also keep you cool in summer. I have recycled a wall unit for this purpose and seems to be OK.
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12th April 2008, 09:54 PM #12
Called "space heaters" around here, and they definitely pump out the BTU's. Probably overkill for a small-to-medium size shed. They also need substantial clear space from the blowtorch.
The fan heater is likely simplest. Aim the output directly toward the turner and the source of dust. The heater can usually be disengaged by reducing the temp setting, and letting the fan run longer should prevent dust accumulation on the coils, and not consume too many watts. A shutoff timer will allow you to retire in lieu of letting the fan run all night, but check and/or clean the coils before re-starting.
JoeOf course truth is stranger than fiction.
Fiction has to make sense. - Mark Twain
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13th April 2008, 08:23 AM #13
G'day toasty
I have been using this little beauty for several years now to keep the cave warm during the cold months. Have never had problem with dust, but then, I do keep my shed very clean. I sweep and use a blower at least once a week. I just keep it ticking over all day and it keeps the shed at around 20 degrees. Very comfortable. Only problem is the SWMBO keeps coming out to stand near it and warm up while I'm trying to work.
Cheers
Shorty________________________________________
Cheers
Shorty
If I can't turn it I'll burn it
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13th April 2008, 08:53 AM #14
I have 2 tube heaters they are around 4 foot in lengh, they do come in diff sizes, i have 3 workshops built together one is just wood storage the other two are for working, each shop has a heater, they are the sort that are put into green house to keep the frost of, i leave them on 24/7 when the cold weather comes and they heat my shops great, im not one for hot workshops, these just keep them warm and comfortable they are also cheap to buy and cheap to run, about 7 pence a day, no idea of the conversion other currancy. but you don't need to convert to know thats cheap. There safe as hell and no problem leaving on continuously. LB...
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13th April 2008, 10:54 AM #15
I have a pot-bellied wood stove in my shed. I keep it burning at least 12 hours a day in the winter, and half of that is with the door open. My only dust collection system is a homemade air cleaner over the lathe, a fan over my shoulder, and an exhaust fan in the window.
A few times, I've had the stove red hot. I've never had a problem. Glad, too... it'd be embarrasing for a fireman's shed to burn!Al
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