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    Went to look at an 8 inch wheel 1725 no name Taiwan grinder.

    Came home with the grinder, with installed Wolverine Grinding Jig, and new Vari-Grind attachment, and new diamond truing tool.

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    A woodworker bought the above six years ago from a yard sale thinking he might want to do some turning. Never used any of it. Lathe and grinder look like new and run smooth and quiet.

    All for US$ 500.

    I had to tell someone. I'm so pleased I can barely stand it.

    Do any of you use one of these lathes? Anything I should watch for?

    Paul
    Last edited by Paul39; 10th November 2008 at 11:04 AM. Reason: add question

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    Paul, I've never used that lathe before, but it should give you years of service. Hegner is the manufacturer of the VB lathe, I believe. I don't think they ever made any junk. The walnut crotchwood sounds like a good deal, too. Congratulations!! If you're pleased, that's the most important part!
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    Paul,
    What you have got is 175 which was the forerunner of the 200, see link below if your 175 is built the same way as the 200. Then you have got a damn fine lathe that will give you good service for many years to come. good pick up!


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    Paul, Paul, Paul...didn't anyone ever tell you about the Hegner lathes?? You really don't want to know....tell you what, I'll make the sacrifice trip down to the Carolinas and won't charge you a cent to take that equipment off your hands lol

    Seriously, sounds like you got a great deal for all that equipment...enjoy!!!
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    Paul, grinning makes you talk funny.

    At least you came back with the thing that was on your shopping list. Have fun with your new toys.
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    US$500 grinder with a lathe thrown in - priceless
    well done - we could see your grin all the way over here - thought the sun was coming up early

    and I agree with Pat - we need piccies - in fact there is little belief around this forum without piccies

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    Paul, you've made a very serious mistake in acquiring this equipment. You could even be accused of theft.

    It's said that a poor mechanic blames his tools. Now, you'll have to blame yourself when you post some pictures. We'll be kind, though; maybe; sort of.

    All kidding aside, very nice score.

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    Way to go Paul. congrats. and Happy turning.Cheers Tony.

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    Did not unload the car last night as it was almost dark and I had to build fires in the wood stove and boiler or I would be uncomfortable by morning. 32 F last night.

    I didn't have room to bring the bench, so first thing this morning unloaded everything into the back yard, put the lathe on a couple of saw horses, mounted the piece of spalted maple the previous owner had put on the screw, gave my high carbon steel gouge a freehand swipe on the new grinder and had a go.

    Wind blowing from the north, 50 degrees, hat, jacket, bare hands - rotating machinery.

    Working at the slowest speed, 800 rpm, knocked off the out of round, bark, rot, etc. Using the Wolverine jig, I did a more careful sharpen and started contouring. I do not have a lot of experience turning, but very quickly I had the angle and twist right and was getting that sweet hissing sound and stream of wood flying off the soon to be vase.

    Even after seeing very accomplished turners demonstrate and extol the virtues, I have been sceptical of claims and rituals attending grinding jigs, and would not buy the setup, (maybe make a shop made one someday).

    I needed a decent slow speed grinder and when this whole outfit fell into my lap, I did it. The grinding jig does work nicely, I'm not sure it is worth the retail money. Very much worth what I paid.

    I shaped the outside with a couple of catches and unintentional grooves, which I then took out with freshly sharpened gouge and scraper. I 60 - 120 - 220 sanded and flooded with tung oil, wet sanded a bit with 220 a couple places, rubbed with my bare hands and polished with a strip of rag on the lathe. I took this with me to show the previous owner when I went to get the bench and wood. He was impressed.

    By this time I was shaking from the cold, so stopped and had lunch. I then stuck a piece of green wild cherry that I had roughed out on my 10" swing metal lathe. It is about 9" in diameter and will be a bowl. It was an almost perfect Y crotch so that when turned it has three bulls eyes and three rough bark inclusions with a random hole or two. It was a bit out of balance but the lathe took that without shaking or vibrating. The turning was: end grain, nothing, endgrain, nothing, endgrain, nothing, each revolution. I had a couple of good catches, which caused the belt to slip, and a couple of tearouts when the tool got dull. The lathe was just sitting on two saw horses and stayed in place. I have an old 12" swing Delta with angle iron type bed that I chase all over the shop.

    I would like a lower speed when I turn the max diameter or outboard. I might have to make a smaller motor pulley.

    It is supposed to be overcast tomorrow, nicer for detail in the shadows. I will take photos and post them.

    The lathe was built in 1985. It does have the through hole on the tailstock ram. The spindle has the metric 33mm outside thread and a partial internal thread. The Oneway chuck has the screw attachment and a 4 prong drive, so I'm covered there.

    The bed is two rectangular steel tubes, head and tailstock, cast iron along with the banjo and tool rest. I would prefer cast iron bed, but so far this is so stable I don't think it will make any difference.

    I found one other reference to the Hegner 175 other than here, from a man in South Africa. He posted information about getting parts from Germany. If there is any interest I'll post that.

    I am most pleased so far.

    Yes, photos coming. Rain predicted tomorrow, I have to find a place for this lathe.

    Paul
    Last edited by Paul39; 11th November 2008 at 11:37 AM. Reason: spelling

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    ...and how sweet it is! Good times to come
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    ... still no photos !

    could be fiction

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    nah , a good fiction writer would nick photos from somewhere ,

    they just forgot to throw the digital camera in with the other Taiwan Grinder attachments

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    Attachment 88417 Grinder

    Attachment 88418 Lathe overall

    Attachment 88419 Lathe close Up

    Attachment 88420 Spindle Nose

    Attachment 88421 Lathe Acc
    Last edited by Paul39; 12th November 2008 at 11:15 AM. Reason: Captions

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    Didn't know Hegner made smaller lathes like that but it looks like a good unit
    The bit that has me baffled though is the Morse taper drive dog when the headstock spindle appears to have an internal thread ????
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