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Thread: I've got a new idea!
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1st August 2007, 09:11 AM #16
Hi Jow,
Ive been following this thread with interest as I want to do the similar stuff on the lathe. Every paste up Ive done blows up on me. I like the work of Mondrian, http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/mondrian/ he balances the space really well.
Sebastiaan"We must never become callous. When we experience the conflicts ever more deeply we are living in truth. The quiet conscience is an invention of the devil." - Albert Schweizer
My blog. http://theupanddownblog.blogspot.com
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1st August 2007, 05:19 PM #17
sebastiaan, At the present time I am cutting mosaic blocks to fit the space on the former. However I might be able to progress to cutting many shapes put them in a bag like bingo numbers and then laying them out and fitting those chosen.
I think the latter method might mean using casting resin to accommodate gap filling.
Can anyone advise what would be the best brand/type of adhesive to use on the first method and perhaps someone has had experience in turnings with those objects created from multi wood block effects.
I must admit I dont really want to start sanding resin in my workshop, dont like the idea of all that dust.woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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6th August 2007, 02:18 AM #18
Returned to the workshop today (after family visitors) but unfortunately the temperature went over 90F in there so didn't stay long.
The progress on a trial run box using european timbers as reached this stage.
I hope later this evening to cut the sections into four sides and then prepare to make the corner joins. I am going to run the side ends against a 45% router cutter. This I think is feasible because the sections of each side will not be end grain.
I have recieved two pieces of timber from Australian forum members but to be honest and humble I need to beg a few more bits.woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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7th August 2007, 09:42 AM #19
Hi John, it's looking good, 95 F that's about 32 C just getting warm enough to take my winter woolies off.
Come on the rest of you guys & gals give the poor man some good Australian timber just to let him know what he's really missing out on , after all our PM keeps saying we have never been so well off so lets share some of what we have .Learn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.
Albert Einstein
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7th August 2007, 06:11 PM #20
Thank you for that Pal, you are a real pal.
The sections were cut from ply former and faces were then sanded with an orbital sander, to be honest this was not a 100% success, some areas have sanded deeper that other parts. I did not fancy putting the pieces through the thicknesser either with grain directions as they are. So next time I shall have to think a little deeper.
Next step was putting the section ends against a 45% router cutter bit and that was a success. I had also decided that the ends would look a little bland and have not cut all the way to the edge because I am going to insert contrasting stringers down the join.
I will most probably line the top edges of the box to hide the ply former as well.
Glued the box up in parts this time, on a flat board using blocks to ensure squareness of project. this also worked well and lightweigt clamps were used at top edges.
Picture taken this morning with glue set and waiting for a decent hour to go out to the workshop to continue.
woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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8th August 2007, 03:51 AM #21
Got a bit more done today.
Cleaned up the corners with a rebate router bit to around 4mm.
Then decided to sharpen all edge tools. Used three of those cheapo diamond plates (now 5 years old and still going strong) but then stuck down 4 strips of wet & dry to a sheet of glass. 3C, 6C, 12K & 25K.
Its the first time I have gone on to W&D and its certainly worth the extra effort.
The corner stringers were awaiting glue to set at the sharpening time.
Then prepared the strips pictured below in readiness for the lid to bi used on box.
.My neighbour called in and said he is off to Alaska,(going to see it whilst there is still some ice I suppose) so when I enquired of his route I asked if he could bring me back some American tools as the exchange rate is good for us at the moment.
Cant think what to get at the moment but he will be in Vancouver and L.A.woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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8th August 2007, 09:33 AM #22
Looking very interesting Jow104
what Aussie timber are you interested in?
cheers
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8th August 2007, 11:04 AM #23
Watching with interest, Jow.
Sebastiaan beat me to it: I was reminded very much of Mondrian. Your pieces are nicely balanced.Those are my principles, and if you don't like them . . . well, I have others.
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9th August 2007, 05:39 AM #24
I have a confession to make, no woodwork today, I went timber hunting!
Took a trip upto Yandles in Somerset and collected 12 different hardwoods, total haul 4 cu.ft. (cost just over the ton.)woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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10th August 2007, 05:45 AM #25
Thursday morning and it got to lunchtime without any work on the box done, I decided I had to tidy up my workshop, even took the carpets up and beat them.
After lunch returned to the lid and I am using veneers this time, again using up offcuts. The top (outside lid) was veneered first and stuck down with neat pvc glue applied to both surfaces and then taped, the rear of the lid was then rebated to drop in box and then veneered with larger pieces of veneer.
Veneering is not recommended after having 2 pints of wallop (with lunch) I nearly caught the chisel once as it was falling but stopped in time.
The glued lid with veneers was sandwiched between two old drawfronts and trapped in the vice together with clamps under terrific pressure.
Thirty minutes later removing boards from vice and they had completely stuck down.
They have cleaned up quite nicely (no pics of that today but will show later)
Photographs of wip today without clean up of veneers.
woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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10th August 2007, 05:59 PM #26
The lid has been veneered both sides and cleaned up also the lid has been rebated around all edges in preparation for a beading to be attached.
There is one dirty join on a veneer between the walnut and a light coloured veneer but I think I will live with this one rather than cut out and replace with a fresh piece.
woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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11th August 2007, 05:37 AM #27
Got to that final day today.
Not without some mishaps,
The lid was completed, beading added all round and stringers put to corners to match box. A lot of sanding.
Base was fitted. (in the top box area )and had to be relocated to the bottom.
Then dropped the lid on workshop floor and had to start sanding again. Also when cutting corners out for stringers on lid, the chisel over did a cut, which necessitated a glue and clamp up.
But in the end I am quite satisfied to show the box.
So will give a coat of shellac and wax polish and add to my collection.woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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11th August 2007, 12:38 PM #28
Hi John,Looks very good much impressed
PalLearn from yesterday, live for today, hope for tomorrow. The important thing is not to stop questioning.
Albert Einstein
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11th August 2007, 04:24 PM #29
It all looks a bit patchy to me...
Nice piece, Jow, I was a bit surprised at how you inlaid the lid into the box sides and then seperated it off, but the effect works well. It should be glorious when the finish brings out the colours.
- Andy Mc
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16th August 2007, 02:09 AM #30
Got the finish on the box over the past two days, gave it a coat of clear shellac and then waxed polish.
Thanks all for looking and your helpful comments.
I have got a selection of timbers (over 25 species) from friends and my own purchases so hopefully I can produce more boxes and to a higher standard in the future.woody U.K.
"Common looking people are the best in the world: that is the reason the Lord makes so many of them." ~ Abraham Lincoln
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