Thread: Saw sharpening files 101

Will do Toby.

Originally Posted by TobyC

We'll take you, just make sure to bring your saws!

Toby

Yes, but only if they're sharp....

I this sharp enough?

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Funnily enough, I used this old girl today making the frame for my tubular bells Brett.

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Originally Posted by Brit*al

UK = 3

Pathetic! Makes me ashamed to be British.

I'll have to start practicing my Australian I think.

The official language is 'Strine'

you'll also need words such as galah, drongo and bludger

struth is good as well ...


Oh and none of us want to know Brett's real name

Originally Posted by Sawdust Maker

The official language is 'Strine'

you'll also need words such as galah, drongo and bludger

struth is good as well ...


Oh and none of us want to know Brett's real name

All terms that Nick is intimately acquainted with.

Originally Posted by Brit*al

I this sharp enough?

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That'll do (pig), that'll do.

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It looks Spear & Jackson ... but it is actually Tyzack & Turner, isn't it?
With an elephant medallion?

Cheers,
Paul

Originally Posted by Claw Hama

Hi Ian
I have seen plenty of saws (hand saws) over the years with missing teeth, mainly from the old hardwood house frame days which is no longer an issue. You find them at the local markets now in the $5 bargin piles. I think the sharp gullet might be a problem if you are cutting a lot of hardwood that is pretty dry but these days most people would use something with a cord hanging out of it for that sort of work

Agreed, Claw - I was thinking about small-toothed saws i.e. >12 tpi, say, not the biggies. With larger teeth & heavy forces, stress cracks are certainly more of a possibility. I have seen a few missing teeth, too, but as far as I can recall, these were all snapped-off parallel to the tooth line, which indicates they are more likely setting fractures than caused by cracks started by too-sharp gullets, which I would expect to run in the same direction as the leading edge of the tooth. Also, the hardwood framers weren't hogging into dry, hard timbers as a rule - they were working with relatively green hardwood, which is much softer stuff, but does require a lot of set on your saws, so p'raps that was the source of a goodly percentage of snapped teeth?

Just theorising, I really don't know......

Cheers,

Originally Posted by pmcgee

That'll do (pig), that'll do.


It looks Spear & Jackson ... but it is actually Tyzack & Turner, isn't it?
With an elephant medallion?

Cheers,
Paul

No Paul, it is a Spear and Jackson. The one I sharpened in my sharpening video was a W. Tyzack, Sons & Turner No.3 Rip saw shown below:

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In the before shot they look like they were set with a pair of multigrips.

Yeah there was way too much set on her. I ended up filing new teeth in that one because the spacing was bad at the toe. Took 3 hours and two edges on a Grobet Swiss file.

Originally Posted by Brit*al

....way too much set on her

Hmmm...........never concerned me before. You sure you didn't get mixed up with that Japanese translation?

No...I always file my saws with a concave bosom, just to guarantee the balance of suffering you understand.

Boys will be boys.

Lining up saws ready for the file test, the lower three saws on the left are the ones that need a bit of treatment. The plastic handle Disston 26"(7ppi )I got for my birthday in 1970, used it for all sorts of horrible things over the years. It need a light jointing, a good clean of the blade and a sharpen. I will clean the blade and use it to test sharpen. The jointing I will do next time. The little old Disston D112 Regular Patern 20" (circa 1930s) has done a lot of work and just about at the end of it's life but is still a sweet little saw, it just needs a good sharpen (10ppi). The third is a Nicholson Silver Professional 26"(8tpi) age, not sure maybe 30 years or so, just needs a brush up. I also have another Disston (I think) 10" tenon saw but I have to move some things to get to it for a smaller ppi tester. What size files are we getting FF? They are all filed RIP.
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