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26th January 2017, 12:09 AM #1Senior Member
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Building a 4 string banjo
Hey everyone, here's my current project - a 4 string plectrum banjo. I'm a guitar player 99% of the time, and occasionally gigs call for a banjo, and 4 stringers translate easier for guitarists than the usual 5 string.
The initial idea was to make as much as possible using scrap wood, offcuts, and leftovers from other projects. As such, I've managed to get away with all of the neck and body being made of leftover QLD Maple, though I had to buy $15 worth of Jarrah for the fingerboard. The body/rim is constructed in the block rim style, and I'll share pics of that later - for now, the neck:
I wanted to get a little art deco motif into the headstock design, so I drew it up in Sketchup, keeping track of the radiuses for all of the curves (these would be used later to create router jigs). I'm pretty pleased with how the process played out, even if it was over-engineered, so here's a blow-by-blow:
1. The design on MDF. Note the locating holes, and the matching steel pins on the board it's sitting on that will be used to mount it when routing:
2. Improvised radius cutting jig
3. Mounted on the board (yes I know I cut the top off, you'll see why later)
4. Very big radius cutting jig!
5. Closeup - the locations of the pins mean I can flip it upside down in any direction to ensure symmetry of the curves
6. Part 1 done (the smaller curves were just done by hand with a spindle sander - arguably the whole thing could have been done that way, but this was more fun:
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26th January 2017, 12:20 AM #2Senior Member
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Continued:
7. Next I used the same big jig with an even bigger radius (1.8m or so) to create a rebate/trench for the centre part of the design:
8. Finally, following all the same steps and same techniques, the middle piece is made - and it was a very nice tight fit. Now I've got my template for the real thing:
9. Using the same locator pins, and a temporary glue joint with paper sandwiched between, the template was attached to the maple (middle piece also added after this photo was taken)
10. Routed around the outline with middle piece in place, then removed the middle piece and the steel pins and trenched out the middle (ie. at this point the template has become sacrificial as I'm routing through the middle of it):
11. Finally, use the middle piece template to create a jarrah inlay, and glue it in. The method I followed meant that the various router tracks left little guides to chisel out the waste to get sharp corners at the
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26th January 2017, 12:23 AM #3Senior Member
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The other fun part has been building a tone ring - this is a ring of brass (in this case) that sits between the body and the head and supposedly contributes to the tone of the instrument. Instead of buying one, I had a go at making it out of 3x13mm brass flat bar. First thing required was a ring roller - I constructed my own based on a photo I saw on the net, using cheapy wheels bought from Bunnings mounted on steel hollow bar (scrap), that were mounted into the screwholes for the jaws of my vise. It works brilliantly!
The brass is then trimmed and filed down, and butt jointed using silver brazing rod. I only have propane torches, and in doing some testing, one torch didn't provide enough heat, so I clamped up the brass and mounted it like so, allowing me to have one torch pointing up at the underside of the joint, and another torch in my hand heating the top of the joint. This worked so much better!
After some filing and sandpaper to clean up the mess, ta-da!
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26th January 2017, 08:58 AM #5GOLD MEMBER
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Very cool, I love the sound of a banjo. Would love to make one myself, just don't know how to play! Ingenious use of jigs to get all the radii you wanted. Brass work is great too. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the build!
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26th January 2017, 11:11 AM #6
Very interesting build. I had been thinking on building a banjo and was a bit taken aback by the cost of banjo hardware. Looks like you are on top of that too. Keep up the good work.
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John
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Looking goooood, keen to see how this turns out, maybe a project for down the track somewhere,
Paul
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7th February 2017, 10:08 PM #8Senior Member
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Thanks for the replies so far. Here's a small update - cutting the neck to body join. It's a rather complex operation when you think about it, as you need to put a radius on the neck end to match the radius of the body, and it's too deep a cut to use a router. I chose to work really hard to on tuning up the bandsaw and building a good jig that would allow me to swing the workpiece past the blade at the correct radius. As you can see, the neck is clamped into the top sacrificial part of the jig, which is connected to the base of the jig via a bolt, so that it can spin. After hours of fine tuning and test-cutting, I reckon it turned out pretty well! This is straight off the saw, no sanding.
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8th February 2017, 09:04 AM #9
Looking good. I take it this aint you'r first instrument build.
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John
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10th June 2017, 06:30 PM #10Senior Member
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Hey all, long time no see!
Finished!
Since we last spoke, I routed the recess for that brass tone ring and got it fitted, carved the neck (rasps for the tricky spots and to establish the profile, spokeshaves to draw the profile along the length, then lots of sandpaper), built the bridge (scrap ebony on scrap blackwood), and bolted it all together. Used spare Epiphone Les Paul tuners, in keeping with the initial philosophy of making as much of this from scraps and leftovers as possible.
Finished with a few coats of Minwax wipe-on Poly.
The only slight hiccup was the bridge was too short, giving me buzzy strings, so rather than build a new one from scratch, I just laminated some more blackwood onto the feet to make it a bit taller - the shape is now a bit less elegant, but it gets the job done!
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That looks fantastic, I want one!
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11th June 2017, 06:05 PM #12Senior Member
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Thanks Cal - have a go! It's not too hard - you just need a big enough lathe, or a friend with a big enough lathe, and some patience for working with circles...
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11th June 2017, 06:16 PM #13GOLD MEMBER
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Hmm, I don't have a big enough lathe! I have put a bigger lathe on the list though. I have always wanted to learn banjo and guitar but have never gotten around to it. I play harmonica and have done for most of my life, need more time to practice that too. The shed has my full attention at the moment and I am sure I will have many more excuses before I get to playing banjo! [emoji53]
You have done a great job though, very envious.
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