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18th April 2017, 10:46 PM #1
My pickings of wandering the country side
I think I've hit the big time ,all 800 mm 32 inch of it.
Found this on the weekend at Broadford Victorian swap meet.
Unfortunately ,haven't had a chance to have a good play yet.
But ,it looks promising ,it's a singular purpose saw mitre machine.
* Designed for 90 degree corners ,only so I would say it was aimed at the picture framing industry ,lacking any clamping ability higher than about 20mm.
I've only spent five min on the net researching it so far. Only found a patent reference!
Loose plans are a quick clean sharpen the saw
Test it out
Cheers Matt
(Am considering removing the medallion shot[emoji41]some will understand why)
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18th April 2017, 11:19 PM #2
Nice get! Wonder what something like that would cost back in the day.
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19th April 2017, 10:10 AM #3
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19th April 2017, 10:41 AM #4
That is awesome
They really don't build them like that any more.Those were the droids I was looking for.
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19th April 2017, 05:16 PM #5SENIOR MEMBER
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Nice find - 26" mitre saw.
Richardson Bros started in Newark NJ in 1866, and then around 1890 became part of National Saw Works, a conglomerate that hoovered up most of the saw makers at the time, except Disston, Atkins, and Simmonds. I recall Disston were major shareholders. The many brands continued to be made for some time after 1890 before the company ended in 1906. Back saws were stamped without "Bros" unlike hand saws. The word "EXTRA" was a Richardson feature. Also they used branded medallions, so warranted superior is a surprise - except that the saw was not intended to be sold as a Richardson saw as such.
j. a. brandon & co, akron ohio, received a patent for the mitering device in 1893.patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/pdfs/US505024.pdf. No patent dates on this device, so perhaps made before the 1890 patent application. By 1915 the manufacturer was known as Brandon Machine Co. The patent drawing shows the location for the 2 saw screws and medallion on the illustrated saw.
The saw was probably made before 1890, and if always mated to the device, probably just a little before 1890 (if patent dates were placed on the device after patent applied for).
Cheers
Peter
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19th April 2017, 08:34 PM #6
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20th April 2017, 09:40 AM #7SENIOR MEMBER
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21st April 2017, 09:44 PM #8
Um the quick clean got a little out of hand.
But I did find the number 4009!
So it may now get a quick paint job.
Not much to really report an less you want to discuss hundred years of grim.
Cheers Matt
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22nd April 2017, 02:32 AM #9
The Find.
Hi Matt,
Yes, I was going to go, but it was on E/ Mon. so I backed off, but a great find.
I wood only use a bit of Clear say Satin out of a can.
Do you know that it had a Colour of some kind.
Although wet, I went to Castlemaine Swap, & only 1 buy was 13, No.1 Morse Taper Bits. Happy with that, although there were many different Brands, & I will use them on the Lathe, as I have a 2/1 Holder.Regards,
issatree.
Have Lathe, Wood Travel.
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22nd April 2017, 11:27 AM #10
Looks like you've a new career in picture framing Matt, or Sally does...
Innovations are those useful things that, by dint of chance, manage to survive the stupidity and destructive tendencies inherent in human nature.
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22nd April 2017, 02:33 PM #11
Fantastic find!
Regards from Perth
DerekVisit www.inthewoodshop.com for tutorials on constructing handtools, handtool reviews, and my trials and tribulations with furniture builds.
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22nd April 2017, 02:34 PM #12
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25th April 2017, 09:31 PM #13
My pickings of wandering the country side
A little update, crapy pics sorry.
It has been brass wire striped back, etch primed,primed,and top coat, and a clear coat.
Resisted touching up the ruff cast marks, a couple of pot holes in them(I think that's the right term)
Loosely put it back together and cut some ,well 45 cuts all it really can do[emoji136]♂️.
And I must say I haven't fine tuned it or adjusted the guide blocks yet,the saw it self is well overdue for a sharpen.
But I was pretty impressed so far.
Saw is 14 TPI and long lol so be it
Cheers Matt
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8th October 2020, 09:16 AM #14Intermediate Member
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Another one
Just found a J A Brandon miter box and 28" Richardson saw, pretty much identical details as described/pictured above, although my saw seems to have been sharpened down a little more. Thanks to Matt's detailed posts I was able to find the serial number, #4012, (only a few digits newer than Matt's #4009, but found 16,000 km apart).
It needs a good clean and oiling, but I don't think I'll paint it. The saw is still almost sharp, so I cut a couple of test mitres which came out good. When this unit sits flat on the bench the crank handles have to overhang the edge of the bench so they have clearance to rotate, so I may try to put a short pedestal under it to give clearance for the handles.
An c1900 advert for this outfit shows a list price of $11.50, (which one inflation calculator estimates at being about $356 in present day money) Brandon's Perfection Mitering Machine and Vise [Catalog Excerpt] : J.A. Brandon & Co. : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive P1050133.jpg
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8th October 2020, 11:08 AM #15
That price conversion seems a little low when compared to wages of a cabinet maker - presumably the prime buyer of mitre boxes. Across the border in the USA the average wage of a cabinet maker in 1900 was $11.05 per week.
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Thus Brandon's Perfection Mitering Machine and Vise cost more than a week's wages.
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