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14th January 2023, 03:13 PM #31
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14th January 2023, 03:22 PM #32Originally Posted by auscab
Right up there with the definition of a net - a bunch of holes tied together with string.
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14th January 2023, 05:39 PM #33
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15th January 2023, 03:41 AM #34Senior Member
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Regardless of who made it, it's an interesting design, similar in intent, I'd guess, to the British Warrington hammer design (probably all y'all know what a Warrington hammer looks like, but just in case, picture below).
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15th January 2023, 08:17 AM #35
Yairs, in the blurb for their version, LV say:
"Warrington hammers are made specifically for cabinetmaking.
The cross peen is used to start brads or finishing nails without the risk of damage to fingers. The round head, with the slightly belled face, lets you drive nails flush without marring surrounding wood
Yer right, it takes a LOT of skill to start a tiny brad with the 'cross' end, and my fingers can attest that there IS risk of "damage to fingers"!
Mine is not like the one currently offered by LV, it's an Italian version (which I'm 99% certain I bought from LV a generation or so back). The cross end is too rounded & tends to slide off the head of the brad (which definitely entails "risk' to any fingers holding it). Its other pleasant habit is due to the fact that the 'flat' head is square, with quite sharp corners, so if you drive a pin or brad flush, you need to hit very squarely or one of those sharp corners will leave a nasty ding. I think I've used the darn thing about 3 times in the 40 or so years I've had it, and two of them ended in tears, due either to bruised fingers, or bruised work (or was it both?!).
P'raps I'm just a klutz who needs to practice their hammer swing....
Cheers,IW
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15th January 2023, 05:09 PM #36
Get the linisher onto it and round that face and re grind that peen end Ian . I'm probably telling some stuff you know but your Peen problem doesn't sound right.
The cross peen on the back of the brad hammer was a lesson I remember from day one . My memory is of how well it worked and how I had no idea of what it was used for before that day one. It was an unforgettable surprise.
Are you using it right ? They need to be thin and fine . Plenty are not and they don't work. Most of the finest are not fine enough. Most good ones Ive only found as old second hand heads at tool sales. The fine one is for brads that are so small that when you hold them between finger and thumb they cant be seen. Driving the fine peen between your pressed finger and thumb finger closed split finds the head of the brad down lower. Your skin is guiding a light hammer blow that is enough to tap the point of a brad in . I find a lot of use for mine when fixing wood blocks holding in mirrors to frames or fixing beading like the ones holding on panels in on the back of doors. And I have never had a problem hitting fingers with it . If a nail or brad is tall enough to rise above your pinched fingers then no one has a problem starting them with any reasonable sized hammer.
The larger cross peen ends on my other hammers I only use when I need to stretch or bend steel or brass. Like when fixing steel and brass locks and keys. Making Key or lock parts longer is a common need when fixing them . I rarely try hitting a nail with them.
That tip on the left is about 1mm wide at the end and flat . It tapers down quickly towards its end . The other two are to wide for doing that method with.
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The pinch on a small Brad. Cant take a pic with hammer as well .
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Rob
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16th January 2023, 07:59 AM #37
You are absolutely right Rob (of course). I could've modified the thing if I'd been inclined, but I think the reason I haven't is simply because I drive really small pins so rarely. The fact I still have a good couple of handfuls each of 1/2", 5/8" & 3/4" brads bought in Imperial-sized packs sort of tells the story.
Seeing your hammers does confirm that mine is not the right tool for the job, the cross-peen end is more like the one in the centre of your pic. & there's no way it would slide between finger & thunb - I'd end up with a good-sized blood-blister on both! I should try grinding it down to a finer end, but tbh, the square face is an even bigger liability & I would need to round that as well. I would just give it away but I don't know anyone I dislike enough to inflict it on....
I have a nice little (round-faced) hammer that I use on small nails & stuff. Got it for a few cents at a flea market donkey's years ago & replaced the busted handle & it's just the bee's knees for small work. Hammers are one of those tools we grow onto over time, I have 3 sizes hanging behind the woodwork bench in easy reach & each is used for specific jobs. I have a selection of ball-peen hammers behind the metal work bench, of which I use the 2, 4 & 8 oz a lot (they are just the right sizes for me for peening up planes & small stuff). Lately, I've found myself wishing for a 6 oz. but that must've been a less popular size 'cos I've been keeping an eye out for one & have only found new ones that look a bit cheap (& I detest plastic handles!). I'm sure one will pop up somewhere, sometime..
Cheers,
ianIW
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1st February 2023, 08:57 PM #38
Your Hammer restoration thread got me inspired MA.
I used it as trying to get back into work slowly after the break .
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I re handled my French pattern head with some of the Wattle tree I cut and saved some of a while back . I cut it off the board then found a worm hole in it but ended up patching it rather than start again. It was down the bottom end so should be good.
And my other head stamped 500 on top with the two square ends and chamfered edges I did with some Spotted Gum.
First time Ive used that timber. I was in the process of spoke shaving it and beveling the edges heading towards rounding it and I decided to keep it beveled. So I went from spokeshave to horizontal sander and left it like that .
Polished them both and decided to give the beveled handle some fake age to match the head. Some dark colour on top and a heat gun to crackle it up then some more shellac.
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Ive been using them . That chamfered head one has some weight to it and feels great . A bit of a favorite atm for giving things a good wallop. .
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Thanks for the inspiration MA .
Rob
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2nd February 2023, 12:06 PM #39
Rob
I particularly like the chamfered head hammer. I thought it looked like it was a dovetail shape and only when I enlarged it did I realise the chamfer aspect. I must get to handling two claw hammer heads I have lying around. You and MA have stirred the desire to get a handle on things.
Regards
PaulBushmiller;
"Power tends to corrupt. Absolute power corrupts, absolutely!"
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2nd February 2023, 01:41 PM #40GOLD MEMBER
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My pleasure Rob. You have been the source of much help and inspiration yourself! I have rehandled another but slightly split the shoulder when driving the metal wedge home (Why didn't I shorten it like the first one?). All the billets for the others are sitting on my bench but I have gotten distracted with a sand blasting project. And a plane resto that included re painting the base and polishing the steel. It is a Millers Falls made Craftsman #3. Very thin blade but works nicely
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2nd February 2023, 08:15 PM #41
Hi Paul. It almost reminds me of the look of some Japanese Hammers . Its not Japanese though.
Here's a better shot of the only stamp on it . It looks pretty old and has what I think are two hard faces.
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Rob
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2nd February 2023, 08:21 PM #42
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3rd February 2023, 11:06 AM #43
This a fantastically smashing good thread.
Cheers Matt.
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3rd February 2023, 12:58 PM #44GOLD MEMBER
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You don't have to bang on about it!
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3rd February 2023, 07:55 PM #45
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