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Thread: Advice on spokeshaves wanted
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2nd April 2008, 03:25 AM #1
Advice on spokeshaves wanted
I have been looking at buying a spoke shave for a while and hadn't seen this sort before. Would I be better off with a flat or semi curved shave or should I go with this one?
It seems well made and a product up to the usual Veritas level of manufacture and for $150 US it isn't wildly out of the question pricewise......
What is the consensus amongst the wise heads of the forum? Do you have any thoughts on the tool?
From the Veritas website
"Maintaining concentricity while forming a tenon, dowel, or spindle is difficult to do with a single-blade 'shave. The Veritas® Full-Round Spokeshave lets you take balanced shavings from each side of the workpiece in a controlled and repeatable manner. Dynamic diameter adjustment is straightforward as the handle studs also control the spread between body segments; just twist the handles while pulling (or pushing) to make precise diameter adjustments (twist just one handle to adjust the radius only). The O1 blades have a width of 1", and are ground for a maximum cut diameter of 1-1/2". Each blade is fully lapped, and is held securely by a cast-steel lever cap. Blade adjustment is effected using the trapped, lead-free brass knob. "
Last edited by Ray153; 2nd April 2008 at 03:36 AM. Reason: typos
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2nd April 2008, 08:31 AM #2
Hi Ray,
I'm no expert on spokeshaves, but this looks nearly as useful as the Dodecagauge, the pouchless toolbelt and the Mark XXXXII blade sharpening jig.
The guys over at Lee Valley must have fun each year coming up with these. I think that the Dodecagauge was the best engineered, but the toolbelt was the most popular.
I'm waiting for tool like this that smooths the inside of didgerydoos - now that would be something.
Regards
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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2nd April 2008, 08:39 AM #3
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2nd April 2008, 08:53 AM #4
I love this bit:
(twist just one handle to adjust the radius only).
Presumably twisting two handles adjusts the diameter....falls off chair laughing....
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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2nd April 2008, 09:36 AM #5
You've been had !
Surely this is an April fools joke...
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2nd April 2008, 09:46 AM #6I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I needed to be.
My Other Toys
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2nd April 2008, 03:48 PM #7
Spoilsports......
You ruined it all .......... Took away all my fun of being on nightshift ......
I haven't seen the Dodecagauge but I have seen the sharpening jig. I think this years offering was interesting but perhaps not as good as previous years......
Perhaps I should have known better than to try and fool the wise heads on the forum.......
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2nd April 2008, 04:48 PM #8
Sorry Ray - didn't mean to spoil thefun.
Here is the Dodecagauge:
This is the ultimate cabinetmakers gauge.
Historically, fine cabinet work (and even architecture) has always been done using referential measurement; craftsmen used ratios, relationships, and the tools/material at hand - and did not rely on graduated rules, or "even" dimensions.
Mortises were based on material sizes (or chisel widths, irrespective of actual dimension), story sticks recorded dimensions to eliminate measurement error, and material thicknesses were determined by the supply at hand. Today, we tend to rely on measurement instead of experience and technique to ensure that assemblies fit together, and that components have consistent sizes. While the story stick is an excellent method of recording larger dimensions, such as those required for casework, there has been a pressing need for smaller-scale, more refined, and more precise method for recording measurements for joinery. Not only will the Dodeca-Gauge store 12 precise measurements - it can also transfer the measurements directly to a work-piece, with no possibility of measurement or transfer error.
Each of the hardened steel wheel cutters will perfectly scribe at any point of its circumference. Because they cut wood fibers rather than tear, they leave a clean mark, even on cross grain. Each wheel's single-sided bevel also pulls the gauge face against the stock, maintaining accuracy. The cutting edge of the wheel is at the extreme end of the graduated rod, which is useful for transferring dimensions such as tenon shoulder and mortise depth. The wheel retracts into the face of the gauge for storage and protection. The gauges are particularly easy to set, since each has an internal O-ring to keep light but constant friction on the rod.
The proximity of adjacent cutters makes it easy to set mortise widths directly from your chisels, or to take direct measurements off each cheek of a tenon - allowing the mating mortise to be scribed perfectly. The beauty of the design is that
adjacent heads can also scribe simultaneously, allowing for up to 6 pairs of coupled measurements, at a variable distance from the fence. To keep your referential settings clear, the center of the brass face can be written on with a soft pencil (we recommend 2B). One can decide to group measurements by joint, by chisel width, or by material thickness - or even all three. The possibilities are endless.
Each rod is graduated to 6" in 16ths, and is made from centerless ground stainless steel stock, and laser etched. Quantity discounted for those that may have more than one project on the go at a time. Very comfortable gauges to use, and
much more elegant to use than multiple single or double gauges.
I want one..................................
SG.... some old things are lovely
Warm still with the life of forgotten men who made them ........................D.H. Lawrence
https://thevillagewoodworker.blogspot.com/
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2nd April 2008, 05:00 PM #9
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2nd April 2008, 05:12 PM #10
Whats really interesting is that each of these tools actually exists, having been made by Veritas specifically for this special day!
eg....... here
I also really like the alternative use for this spokeshave .......
A peripheral use for the Veritas® Full-Round Spokeshave can be seen in the image (shown to the right). Much more effective than the "Bird" corn sheller (patented July 6 1869) made more than a century ago in Springfield, Ohio, it can be adjusted on the fly to neatly sever kernels without the crushing inherent in other methods.
Regards
Rob
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2nd April 2008, 06:32 PM #11
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2nd April 2008, 07:20 PM #12
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2nd April 2008, 11:14 PM #13
Not coping well
Night Shift is screwing with my head I think.
Sadly, I can actually see legitimate uses for this tool, perhaps with a few less gauge rods........ I wouldn't automatically see it as a useless product...... Is it wrong to want one?????
Last edited by Ray153; 2nd April 2008 at 11:16 PM. Reason: Spelling mistakes
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3rd April 2008, 10:11 AM #14
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