Thread: Another shed!

Zenwood - thanks for links, This is the kinda stuff I am after.

Neils pics help - <<mezzanine type shelving arrangement hung off the roof framing>> I think I might try this for even more storage space at the end of the garage/shed.

I think, unless you've set up a few workshops or "lived" in one for a long time, you always wonder if if could be laid out better.

Cheers - Phil

Nice looking shed.

If you find a way to take care of dust behind your chop saw let me know My chop saw is a free standing and throws dust all over my clamp wal and my garage door.

For your sheat good storage you can make a rack just for them.. Beter Homes & Gardens WOOD mag has a rack for sheat goods some thing like this drawing. you can put wheel on it for move it around.

Welcome Phil. Nice work area. As has been already mentioned - a band saw with a good blade. BTW, you didn't have to mention the asthma. We already know that someone with a shed this clean must be sick .

Originally Posted by junkboy999

Nice looking shed.

If you find a way to take care of dust behind your chop saw let me know My chop saw is a free standing and throws dust all over my clamp wal and my garage door.

For your sheat good storage you can make a rack just for them.. Beter Homes & Gardens WOOD mag has a rack for sheat goods some thing like this drawing. you can put wheel on it for move it around.

Terry - like the idea of the sheet storage trolley - that might be my next project. The idea of being able to move it around is tempting, however it might be a bit unstable being narrow but quite high with a sheet on it's side? But anything to get a full sheet of 18-25 mm MDF near to the work area helps - those things are dam heavy.

And yes Bob - I think some of my mates think I'm a "bit" obsessive compulsive but people usually only get to see my place after I've cleaned up.

Cheers - Phil

Originally Posted by junkboy999

Nice looking shed.

If you find a way to take care of dust behind your chop saw let me know My chop saw is a free standing and throws dust all over my clamp wal and my garage door.

I’ve only started to think about a “cowl/hood” around the drop saw. The top hinges down and the sides push-fit. This stops most of the dust blowing about. The top is drawn up against wall and sides stored out of the way when not in use.<o></o>

Once I get an extract unit I’ll put an extract outlet roughly behind the saw?

Cheers - Phil

Originally Posted by greenie512

Terry - like the idea of the sheet storage trolley - that might be my next project. The idea of being able to move it around is tempting, however it might be a bit unstable being narrow but quite high with a sheet on it's side?

Hey Phil


You can allways make legs that are wider them the storage trolley to keep it stable. Or take a look at Bitingmidge storage rack. One end is monted with a henge so it just swings out.

Greenie I luv looking at sheds, good job.

I also had a look at your speaker site as I was installing custom car audio (some 130Db+) as a 16 year old and during uni. I also toyed with the idea of building speakers until I did the math using the drivers I wanted to use. For example you built your sub for $1000, I bought my B&W for $1200(as a demo). My BIL bought his Velodyne for $1500.

Just interested, but are you of the opinion that your speaker sounds better. You dont have to explain if its just something you love to do and wanted the satisfaction of doing it.

Originally Posted by boban

I also toyed with the idea of building speakers until I did the math using the drivers I wanted to use. For example you built your sub for $1000, I bought my B&W for $1200(as a demo). My BIL bought his Velodyne for $1500.

Just interested, but are you of the opinion that your speaker sounds better. You dont have to explain if its just something you love to do and wanted the satisfaction of doing it.

Yep, you are basically correct, if cash if the restricting factor or you are not too worried about ultimate sound - economically you can not beat retail prices (mass production - bulk buying etc etc).

However at any price point with the correct design you can built a better sounding speaker than most manufacturers (within a sensible price range), excluding DIY time/tools etc - this is a pass-time/hobby/love. Because mass production has to have a degree of compromise and the DIY doesn’t.
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All my speakers sound a magnitude of 2-3-4 time higher in the retail price range category than the actual material cost. If you priced my time at commercial rates and put a profit margin on – well we are getting back to retail prices.
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I’d love to make custom speakers as a business but this is exactly why I haven’t tried the venture.
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I usually try and sell off projects on eBay at material costs, so someone gets a bargain and I can move onto the next project.
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Cheers - Phil
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I can not resist this addition to the above ..

Most people do not really care or have an ability to distinguish good quality sound (very sweeping statement!) - hense the rise of MP3 audio and the like.

They would think you mad spending $1200 on a sub woofer.

Like all hobbies speaker building can get expensive.

Wouldn't be nice to be one of the masses and be happy with cheap mass produced "stuff" - aggggggggggggggggggg.

Cheers - Phil

I'm one of those who fit into the sweeping generalisation. Even a five channel tone thingy does nothing but confuse my ears - I'm quite happy with a simple base/trebble knob. Makes buying "hi-fi" equipment quite a bit cheaper.

Greenie I think its more a matter of exposure to quality. When you can actually hear a good speaker then its quite easy to distinguish between it and the crap speaker.

I have a dear friend who loves his car stereo that I cannot listen to for very long. He hasn't listened to my wife's car stereo.

At one point in time I thought the Triton was the ants pants in table saws.....you get what I'm saying.

Your right again, when I first met my late wife many moons ago she had no idea about sound and wasn’t really interested (so buying good/expensive gear was a problem?). But over the years she “tune-in” and I’ll always remember the day she returned from a friends house complaining :eek: about the quality (or lack of it) of their “music centre” – gotcha.
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I’ve realized long ago, folk have different hearing and interest capabilities and have stopped trying to convert the heathens. Even the “converted” will argue pros and cons of every bit of audio gear under the sun.
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If your really interested in some good Audio/speaker discussion check out this forum
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http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/discuss.cgi
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Cheers - Phil

Originally Posted by greenie512

Your right again, when I first met my late wife many moons ago she had no idea about sound and wasn’t really interested (so buying good/expensive gear was a problem?). But over the years she “tune-in” and I’ll always remember the day she returned from a friends house complaining :eek: about the quality (or lack of it) of their “music centre” – gotcha.
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I’ve realized long ago, folk have different hearing and interest capabilities and have stopped trying to convert the heathens. Even the “converted” will argue pros and cons of every bit of audio gear under the sun.
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If your really interested in some good Audio/speaker discussion check out this forum
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http://www.madisound.com/cgi-bin/discuss.cgi
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Cheers - Phil

those are some nice arrays you got there.
in my world, we would call a speaker like that a "linear array"
there are some great advantages to having a linear array. most of the advantage is in the throw distance and field resonance.
I have to ask,
do you know what the response curve looks like?

and how are you planing on using them?
as a near field monitor?

if so, for your next design, you might want to look at bowing them inward
like a very slightly curved "c"

imagine if your sitting listening, all of the speakers should be pointed toward your ear.

in the world of big sound systems, we have a similar array called a spiral linear array, that directs the audio signal toward the whole audiance regardless where they are sitting in the stands.


keep up the good work.
i wish i could audition them.


the whole reason i am getting into woodworking is so i can design and build better enclosers

Sab, thanks for kind comments. The line arrays were/are definitely an experiment into this type of enclosure. I’ve used power tapering as recommended by Jim Giffin, so didn’t think a concaved front would help and would be awkward to build.
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Considering the extremely low price of each driver (read – cheap) the end result was very good for near field listening (yes domestic living room use). I don't have any measuring gear yet - so have to depend on the olde lug-holes - for measurement purposed.
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These were built for my brother and have been hanging around the shed for the last 4 months waiting for him to proved specific paint for the spray job. Finally got fed up so last weekend I put the first coat of low sheen black on which showed up some areas that need filling. Once I have them finished I’ll post a picture or two. Then we just need to “sneak” them past his wife :eek: :eek: :eek: and into his house – hoho.