Thread: no anzac day holliday

IMO there should be no 'public holiday' granted - ANZAC Day is not a celebration. It is to remember the sacrifice of men and women on active service.

soth

It has been a public holiday since 1916. Obviously the people around at the time that these sacrifices were made thought it warranted one. I guess they're all gone now, so you wont be able to ask them why.

Actually, you can blame the kiwis because I think they were the first to have a day off over it.

But be that as it may, it is, and has long been, a public holiday. I suppose a lot of people get involved in the meaning of the event, but the majority these days would just see it as an opportunity to spend a day with family or go to the pub and play two up the one time of the year it is 'legal' to do so.

I'm not religious but I'm happy to take Friday and Monday off over Easter and Christmas day too.

Originally Posted by silentC

Why should the public holiday and the observance be on the same day?
The public holiday is about giving workers a day off, hence the name.

Why should a day set aside to remember those who fell and those who served entitle us to a day off on another day? Is it a right they fought and died for?


OK Silent, don't answer that. They were Australians, it probably bloody was!

Cheers
Michael

See my post above though. It has been a public holiday for close to 100 years. My only issue is that I miss out on a day off this year. Australia day last year was on a Saturday but we still got a public holiday on the Monday. It had nothing to do with the celebration of Australia Day - the labour unions negotiated with the government to give us a day off. It is an entitlement after all. That aspect of it has nothing to do with the ANZAC spirit etc.

But yes you are right, I believe they were fighting for the type of world in which we are able to have a day off every now and then.

SC how do you miss having a day off do you work Saturday's

What you mean is your not getting a paid day off I think

No I don't work on Saturday but I fail to see what that has to do with anything I have posted.

If there was a public holiday for ANZAC day on the Monday, like there should be, like there will be in WA and ACT, I would get a day off work. Just like there was for Australia day last year.

Anyway, it will never happen again:

A new national agreement, which takes effect from 2010, will harmonise substitute public holidays when Anzac Day falls on a Sunday, as it does in 2010, or on a public holiday, such as Easter Monday in 2011.


In 2010, all states and territories will have a public holiday on the Monday, and in 2011 the Easter holiday break will be extended to Tuesday, April 26.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...006009,00.html

Originally Posted by silentC

My only issue is that I miss out on a day off this year. .

So whats this statement

Man oh man. You and I are really on different planets, aren't we?

I give up. Whatever you think I meant is good enough for me at this point...

Now now boys, play nicely!!
If the servicemen and women hadn't been there over the years, we may well not have had the oportunity to dissent.
Holiday or no holiday, paid or otherwise, just be a bit appreciative.
LEST WE FORGET.

Nobody is challenging the concept of ANZAC day. In fact I don't need a special day to be appreciative of what was done.

The topic of debate here is whether there should be a public holiday. I think very few working people would turn it down.

But there is a public holiday on the 25th April - the day it falls on.

What you want is a day off work between monday and friday using Anzac day as the excuse. I think you will find the public holiday was gazetted so working people can go to the activities put on with the rememberance theme in mind. If you have a day off Monday there will be no such activities for you to go to, hence no reason to have a day off any day but the 25th April.

That is what sickpay is for just ring up and say you are ill - there you go - a day off.

Did you happen to read any of the other stuff above?

WA and ACT have seen fit to grant it, and following a Council for the Australian Federation agreement, all states will grant a substitute public holiday for ANZAC day next year (when it falls on a Sunday) and the year after (when it falls on Easter Monday).

I'm not asking for anything out of the ordinary. The only reason we aren't getting one in NSW is probably because the RSL whinged louder than the unions.

And I don't care what anyone says, declaring a public holiday on a weekend is a ridiculous concept.

Yep read every post but that doesnt change the fact the commemeration day is the 25th and that is the day that should be a public holiday. So tell me next year if you are say a nurse or Policeman and are rostered to work Sunday and Monday do you get paid 2 public holidays or only one. Does that mean you then work on Sunday (25th April) for single pay, or is it Monday you work for single pay when you (who doesnt work Sunday will get holiday pay?

"And I don't care what anyone says, declaring a public holiday on a weekend is a ridiculous concept."

Not if you work on a Saturday or Sunday

There are four aspects to this.

The first one is that Anzac day, falling on Saturday, is a public holiday and must be observed in accordance with the special laws dealing with Anzac day.

Secondly businesses can operate on public holidays, with the proviso as above, but must pay their staff additional moneys for working on such public holidays.

Thirdly if gazetted public holidays are observed on the day, and not substituted to a different day, employees who are normally rostered of on that day must be paid a day's pay, given a day of within 28 days in lieu or a day added to their holiday.

Finally if a substitute day is gazetted these provisions apply to the substitued days and not the original day.

So if you normally don't work on a saturday you must be paid anyway.

Wonderfull laws we have as for instance when Christmas and Boxing day fell on saturday and sunday, those working on saturday and sunday got normal pay but those working on the substituted days of monday and tuesday, like me , got 2 1/2 times pay.


Peter.