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    I don't work on Saturday or Sunday now. When I did, we were paid double time for Sundays and public holidays. We would still have to work. That's a choice you make if you work in shift work or retail. Nobody holds a gun to your head.

    Not if you work on a Saturday or Sunday
    To carry your argument to a logical conclusion, we should abolish weekends altogether and every day can be a working day. It's all arbitrary anyway, so what's the point? They should just bump up our leave entitlements and abolish public holidays. Then people who don't celebrate Easter can take their 4 day break in a nicer part of the year.

    Anyway it's a pointless debate because, as I already said at least twice, from next year we'll be getting the substitute holiday if it falls on a weekend, so obviously greater minds than ours have made their decision and it happens to agree with my opinion, which is fine by me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silentC View Post
    so obviously greater minds than ours have made their decision
    You sure you want to stand by that comment
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    I am glad I don't employ anybody any longer.... employees are whingers....

    If you trade/work on a weekend or a public holiday you are called greedy even though they are the ones that expect to be paid extra for it.

    If the holiday falls on a weekend & not a weekday, you are accused of getting an extra day of labour for free.

    I am SO glad that I don't employ anybody any more.
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    i'm hearin you cliff.....ditto

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    Me too

    Is it any wonder that we are known as the land of the long weekend
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    I am glad I don't employ anybody any longer.... employees are whingers....

    If you trade/work on a weekend or a public holiday you are called greedy even though they are the ones that expect to be paid extra for it.

    If the holiday falls on a weekend & not a weekday, you are accused of getting an extra day of labour for free.

    I am SO glad that I don't employ anybody any more.
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    i'm hearin you cliff.....ditto
    Quote Originally Posted by Chesand View Post
    Me too

    Is it any wonder that we are known as the land of the long weekend
    You guys could always move to somewhere like China ... then you wouldn't have any of those pesky labor problems.
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    Anzac Day, no matter what day of the week, is a day of remberance NOT an excuse for another day off. It is a day to remember those Australians who died for the freedoms we have and for some member to suggest that we need a day off as well is ungrateful, unfeeling, disgusting and UNAUSTRALIAN!
    Silentc, you should be ashamed.

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    All business should close for those days and all other activity stop also
    That sentiment is just irrational and absurd.

    I think this thread is pretty absurd come to think of it.

    Being Australian with Turkish heritage (dual citizenship), all I care about is the significance and meaning of Anzac day, that lest we forget.

    Those heroes who shed their blood and lost their lives, you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side in this country of ours. You, the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears, your sons are now lying in our bosoms and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they become our sons as well.

    I also have deep care for observing remembrance day because it is distinct from anzac day. It is not about the national identity and association. It is about the human cost and sacrifice for all victims of war. Not solely those who served, from Australia and or New Zealand.

    Remembrance day does not get the appreciation, observance or respect it deserves. In a sense, I am dissapointed that we don't commemorate and remember the non-service victims of war to the same extent as servicemen and women in our country. I will never choose to favour one over the other, neither consciously nor subconsiously.I don't believe in it either.

    Now if you want to get on the blower about "un-Australian" nonsense....I will tell you what is very Australian..... ....it's very Australian to put more significance into anzac day than remembrance day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopha View Post
    Anzac Day, no matter what day of the week, is a day of remberance NOT an excuse for another day off. It is a day to remember those Australians who died for the freedoms we have and for some member to suggest that we need a day off as well is ungrateful, unfeeling, disgusting and UNAUSTRALIAN!
    Silentc, you should be ashamed.
    Little bit harsh in your comments there christopha, if fact, a lot harsh.

    Pot? Kettle? Black?

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    Christopha harsh, not at all, straight forward and to the point
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    As workers we should get a set number of public holidays per year.

    If we wish to name these public holidays such as Christmas day, Queen's birthday, Anzac day etc that's fine but give them to us all the same.

    Some clowns have said that if you don't think the Queen should be our monarch then you should go to work on that day or if you are not a Christian then you should not take Christmas day. I say to those clowns, think yourself lucky that we name the public holiday after your soap box topic - if you keep up your toxic talk the day should be named something else.

    Money centric selfish small minded employers take every opportunity to deny their workers including coming up with things like "if it doesn't fall on the day...." Good on you scrooges - your employees probably think the same about you as you think about them. Leads to a great working relationship that sort of attitude

    Call all the public holidays by some other name if some sectors of the community think they can profit if those days fall on a weekend. Give workers set public holidays.
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    As long as I can remember, and that's more than twice the time you've been alive Weisy, ANZAC day itself has been the gazetted public holiday. Only when ANZAC day fell on Sunday was Monday the public holiday and the day used for the ANZAC parade – the reason being that you were supposed to go to church on Sunday and not get blotto with your old mates

    And I don't agree with the very recent take over of ANZAC day by corporate sport


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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopha View Post
    Anzac Day, no matter what day of the week, is a day of remberance NOT an excuse for another day off. It is a day to remember those Australians who died for the freedoms we have and for some member to suggest that we need a day off as well is ungrateful, unfeeling, disgusting and UNAUSTRALIAN!
    Silentc, you should be ashamed.
    Emotive claptrap, Doorstop. Why doesn't it surprise me that you would go off half-cocked?

    So you'll be going to work on Monday the 26th next year will you?

    Wood Borer has hit the nail on the head.
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    Bugger, I just tracked down the CAF bulletin about it and the 'harmonisation' agreement only applies to when the 25th falls on a Sunday. So it's situation normal if it's a Saturday. I'll pull my head in now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vernonv View Post
    You guys could always move to somewhere like China ... then you wouldn't have any of those pesky labor problems.
    Probley.

    The way I work now is at a hourly rate.

    If I work, I get paid.
    If I don't work, I don't get paid.
    I make provision for my own holidays.
    I make provision for my own sick leave/medical expenses.
    I make provision for my own work, liability, disability insurance.
    I make provision for my own transport.
    I make provision for my own tools.

    If I don't want to work on a particular day, I say so, but I also don't expect to get paid for it.

    If somebody wants me to work at some unreasonable time that is not convenient to me & they offer to pay a premium for the time & if we can come to an agreement what that premium is to be, then I will work.
    If I was an employee asked to work at unreasonable hours I would get paid extra for it but since I am in fact a Sole Trader, I guess that just makes me a greedy bastard.

    I am SO glad that I don't employ anybody any more.
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