Thread: P & N Tools

Originally Posted by DavidG

Just got a P&N 22mm Super Gouge.
It can remove wood real quick.
Nice tool.


?? Why does the title change to P&n when I typed in P&N???:confused:

Seems it needs spaces David. Maybe to stop shouting?

Yep. I use the 17mm version as my roughing gouge for bowls. It's a hoot turning green timber with it - big ribbons flying over the shoulder. And plenty of heft in it for long overhangs.

David, yep! I got a 12mm or 1/2" whatever anyway it cuts fine. Rips into green timber in great style. As Risser says the timber peals off, loverly to watch. Hughie

Fantastic tool. Bought one at the Brisbane www show. Also a 12mm and both have gidgee handles which balances them nicely. You'll have it for years.

when grinding the super gouge what did you find was the best angle and profile I have just got one and as usual it isn't sharpened in fact I don't think any Patience & Nicholson gouges are factory sharpened.

Some ideas here:

http://www.woodcentral.com/newforum/grinds.shtml

Originally Posted by A-Marks

when grinding the super gouge what did you find was the best angle and profile I have just got one and as usual it isn't sharpened in fact I don't think any Patience & Nicholson gouges are factory sharpened.

No woodturning chisels are ever sharp from the factory.

So... come on you mob let a bloke know whats so special about this super guoge thingy!!

I mean young Chris left me with the words ringing in me earholes to GET SOME P&N CHISELS!! and one of them was the supaduparoota guougey thingy and of course when I wandered up to Carbetexus they didnt have any did they? no they did not... and did they have any supaduparoota gougey thingys? no they did not didnt have a clue what I was talking about actually

But then Chris never EXPLAINED why I needed one did he? No he did not bloody galah was goin at a 1000 to 1 rushin around like a demented chook on steriods wasnt he!! Just left me with a simple shopping list he did... which ahem.. errr um I havent as yet bought... well I did buy some chisels the only one I didnt get was the supaduparoota one and none of the 4 I did buy were P&N they were Hamlet... and theyre goin chocolate out in the shed tryin to work out where Juliet is!!

Anyways knowledge is a good thing eh?

Hi A-Marks, bevel at about 45 degrees should be good to start with.

If doing it freehand rotate the handle at the extremes to pull back the top edge of the flute.

The flute's a bit daggy shaped, as would fit with an Aussie design ... the steel's good quality though.

The Lumber Bunker has the 16mm and 22mm super gouge's , along with a large range of other P & N Turning tools.

The usual statement: I have no pecuniary interest in this providitor or the manufacturer.

Hi guys, maybe you can solve a mystery for me. These are the clues.

Adelaide WW Show. Provider not mentioned to protect the (?) innocent.

Big display of unhandled tools in plastic sleeves marked Crown Tools - HSS Made in Sheffield England. Some rust showing. Marked down 50 %.

Bought a Masterflute gouge for $63. 16mm bar, 10mm flute. Nice long 200mm flute. No manufacturer's marks on the steel.

Question: How do I know that it is genuine?

Laboriously ground it. The bottom of the flute is very narrow. Fail to see the point of cutting a 3mm ribbon with a 16mm bar.

Question: is this what I should expect?

Thanks in advance.

A Masterflute gouge should have a parabolic flute I think ... it's a knock off of the Taylor/Child Superflute.

If the flute profile is distinctly V shaped or a deep narrow U then it's a poor knock-off.

Can you find a profile of the Crown Masterflute on the web for comparison?

... I have a number of UK turning tools with the brand on the handle but not on the steel btw.

Thanks Ern. I was not able to find a profile of the flute on the web, but I can say that the profile of my gouges is parabolic, albeit narrow. Seems to be slightly off centre though, which does not scream "good quality" to me.

I checked out the references for the 242XW and 240W gouges I bought though, and they do not seem to match. They are supposed to be 1/2" and 1/4" wide, while mine are 7/16 (5/8 bar) and 7/32 (3/8 bar).

Unless I am informed that there is some "nominal size" convention and this is how it works, I am temped to have a quiet word with Consumer Affairs.

F&E, the measures for gouges are all over the place in terms of ratios of bar width to flute width etc.

Off-centre however would get my hackles up.

Bottom line though is 'how does it perform in use?'.