Thread: 4-6-2 Tank Locomotive - Circa 1910

Good stuff

Dave TTC
Turning Wood Into Art

If you are happy with it, make another two for the K class. There are some items which are common between classes of Engines, the common ones being couplers and some air brake components. The air hoses (or bags) are a common item that is regularly replaced. You hope you have a spare hose in the tool box in case one on the train bursts. (It does happen.) If you do not have a spare, take the one not being used on the engine (eg the front), and use that to replace the defective one so the train can be worked.

Looking good.

Great Stuff Charlie Boy!.
And it's good to see your practising all of those tricky little pieces.
It will come in handy when you do those sparkplug screws for the J.A.P!.

Cheers mate
Trev.

Originally Posted by Repliconics

Great Stuff Charlie Boy!.
And it's good to see your practising all of those tricky little pieces.
It will come in handy when you do those sparkplug screws for the J.A.P!.

Cheers mate
Trev.

Thanks

They will be easy Trev, an hour job at the most I reckon. Brass or aluminium or steel ?

Charlie

Originally Posted by Handyjack

If you are happy with it, make another two for the K class. There are some items which are common between classes of Engines, the common ones being couplers and some air brake components. The air hoses (or bags) are a common item that is regularly replaced. You hope you have a spare hose in the tool box in case one on the train bursts. (It does happen.) If you do not have a spare, take the one not being used on the engine (eg the front), and use that to replace the defective one so the train can be worked.

Looking good.

Thanks Kevin

The buffer assemblies look similar too. Were they the same ?

With the destination board on the front of the locos - were they common Kev ? I have only seen them on photos of D4 steam locos ?

Regards

Keith

I think the buffers were the same although the D4 appears to have an extension. (I would need to look at other rolling stock and have a tape measure.

The engines doing suburban work had destination boards front and back. The D4 was intended to be used on the steeper lines.

Hi All,

Seems the further the loco goes - the longer it takes to get the items finished. Perhaps slowing up with age.

The buffers are now secured. The brake hose assembly painted and fitted.

Will soon be securing the bunker to the loco Hope it works out OK

I have decided to make up Destination Boards for this loco. I will be trying out my Birthday present (Scroll saw) on the lettering. I made up the word on my computer and printed and glued it to 3mm MDF. Once cut, sanded and painted they will go onto a backing board. Will be making up brackets for the front and rear of the loco. My only concern is the lettering colour - it will be white but I don't want it to look too bright - any ideas on weathering or should I add a touch of black or grey to the white to make it "off white" ?

Regards

Keith

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Originally Posted by Keith_1

Hi All,

Seems the further the loco goes - the longer it takes to get the items finished. Perhaps slowing up with age.

The buffers are now secured. The brake hose assembly painted and fitted.

Will soon be securing the bunker to the loco Hope it works out OK

I have decided to make up Destination Boards for this loco. I will be trying out my Birthday present (Scroll saw) on the lettering. I made up the word on my computer and printed and glued it to 3mm MDF. Once cut, sanded and painted they will go onto a backing board. Will be making up brackets for the front and rear of the loco. My only concern is the lettering colour - it will be white but I don't want it to look too bright - any ideas on weathering or should I add a touch of black or grey to the white to make it "off white" ?

Regards

Keith

Ah-arr...I thought the scrollsaw looked very new, I hope you're happy with your birthday present and get many hours of enjoyment from it Keith...
Don't forget "Helen Harris" for scrollsaw blades.... Cheers, Peter

Try a coat of varnish to see if it yellows the white.

For some reason I was always under the impression the destination boards were painted, black with white lettering. Unfortunately I am unable to prove it with certainty.
I was able to find quite a few images of engines with destination boards, both front and back, but they are not clear enough, or close enough to say they are 100% painted. I would not be surprised if the back of the board had another destination on it, so an engine could show up to four different destinations. eg Sandringham/Flinders St and Essendon/Spencer St. One end of the engine might show Sandringham, the other Essendon.
The white part could get grubby when the engine was coaled, smoke box cleaned, boards changed with grubby hands (fireman always has grubby hands) or just from normal soot and priming.

Enjoy your new toy - the D4 that is.

Hi all,

Over the last few days I have been doing work on securing the bunker to the chasis of the locomotive but won't do any work on the cleaning up of joints with bodyfiller until I have given the glue 48 hours curing time.

I have made up the front destination board. Used the scroll saw. Cut out the letters from 3mm MDF, sanded, primed and painted. The backboard is also 3mm MDF. Used matt black as the colour. The letters are glued to the backing board.
I am unsure if I will have them in place at the completion of the loco - do you guys think they look OK? In any case I will be making up the destination board brackets. These fit just on the inside of each of the front lanterns. There will also be a second destination board (or just brackets) at the rear of the locomotive.

For those non Victorians - FLINDERS ST is one of the main suburban hub stations in Melbourne. This locomotive ran on the Belgrave - Flinders Street suburban network line.

Regards

Keith

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I think the destination board looks great.
Even better mounted forward between the lights.

Now you know how much I know about trains Charlie.
As we've discussed you could write my entire knowledge on the subject on the back of a postage stamp!.
But even still I'm going to pose the question: Wouldn't the lettering on the destination board have just been sign written on and not raised?.

Buy the time the train gets finished I'm going to be running out of ways to say:
Totally and by Totally I mean Way and by Way I mean Kool and by Kool I mean TOTALLY WAY KOOL

Cheers Mate
Trev.

Originally Posted by Repliconics

I think the destination board looks great.
Even better mounted forward between the lights.

Now you know how much I know about trains Charlie.
As we've discussed you could write my entire knowledge on the subject on the back of a postage stamp!.
But even still I'm going to pose the question: Wouldn't the lettering on the destination board have just been sign written on and not raised?.

Buy the time the train gets finished I'm going to be running out of ways to say:
Totally and by Totally I mean Way and by Way I mean Kool and by Kool I mean TOTALLY WAY KOOL

Cheers Mate
Trev.

Yes you are indeed correct Trev,

Probably back in the 1910 era - they hadn't thought about raising the the lettering - probably didn't have Ryobi scroll saws either.
I am looking at expanding my techniques - Maybe I should also be looking at signwriting - good thought

Anyway - I will see how it goes - if it looks out of place I will modify my Destination Boards. I was considering sanding down the letters to 1mm thick and then gluing to the backboard - may still go down that "track".

Thanks for your Totally Kool comments - most appreciated

Charlie

PS - Club Triples Champions - today and only 2 drives

Keith, This train model is just getting better and better...museum quality sir.......Peter

Originally Posted by Keith_1

Club Triples Champions - today and only 2 drives

Two to many Charlie Boy!.

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Play Nice!.

Cheers Mate
Trev.